[netsurf-users] Re: broken fonts in Netsurf on Atari Falcon in FreeMint

Hi Ole,

thanks a lot. So I tried the „internal" font renderer. It kind of makes the font somewhat readable in Netsurf 3.11 (build 6790), but does a lot of other strange stuff and errors in window rendering. And in Netsurf 2.9, the „internal" font renderer crashes it right away (memory corruption).

I took the Choices file that I created in Netsurf 2.9 - it works fine with it, including fonts etc. The palette issue is slightly annoying in 2.9, but I could perfectly live with it. It just changes the color of XaAES background when Netsurf gets focus (from white to red), but the fonts and images are rendered OK in 2.9.

This is how the Choices file looks like: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/lyu318dgt5bzhjupe183v/CHOICES.txt?rlkey=21nopn9jzbp5thr9i0iiyw0op&dl=0 

So when I take this Choices file (that works with 2.9), it does not work with Netsurf 3.11 - causing the font issue, and even images are not rendered ok in 3.11 (even though they look fine in 2.9).

Is it possible that there is some big difference between 2.9 and 3.11 maybe in the renderer that breaks it in 3.11 on systems that are not true color? (like legacy Falcon 030)

That would probably mean that Netsurf is not usable in my case unless I somehow upgrade video HW in my Falcon.

But still it's pity because Netsurf 2.9 looks pretty cool, and the only issue there is too old and deprecated TLS (refused on all https webs).

So I'm wondering if there is anybody in this forum who succeeded in running Netsurf 3.11 on the Falcon HW.

Thanks and all the best

Jan

2. 3. 2025 v 0:33, Ole Loots <ole@monochrom.net>:

Hello Jan,

please lookup the atari related options in the Choices file/dialog. That bug is bit depth related. There are 2 font renderers. Both handle palette based modes? Freetype in monochrom *rendering* mode requires special handling - not implemented. Defaults to grayscale.

Use true color hardware, when available.

Internal renderer is buggy, does it provoke memory corruption? I think so.

Not sure about images - i think you have to completly disable image rendering when running under palette based modes.


Greets,
Ole

Am 1. März 2025 20:59:48 MEZ schrieb "jan.romportl@pm.me" <dmarc-noreply@freelists.org>:

Hi, I'd like to ask for some tips/troubleshooting on running Netsurf on Atari Falcon with FreeMint.

When I run the (almost) latest build NetSurf-m68k-atari-mint-gcc-6790 (or actually any randomly selected build between 4757-6790, as found here https://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/atari/), I get a totally broken unreadable font, and maybe some issues with how the window is rendered.

Best visible on the screenshot here: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/1ffqe7jh5m0qaf36kej29/netsurf_screenshot_atari_falcon.png?rlkey=t3y5ujodidyuhw7czzihdvh6j&dl=0 

(I'm not sure if I can attach images on this forum so I rather put it as a shared link on my dropbox)

When I run it from bash in verbose mode with -v, I don't see any apparent problems in the log - it's mostly INFO.

The log is here: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/lot9ibi362tulvhftcwq0/LOG.TXT?rlkey=81p419t621182sen7mbuhvfd5&dl=0 

I run it on Atari Falcon 030 with DFB1X accelerator by Exxos (50 MHz, 128MB alt-RAM). FreeMint build 1-19-731, XaAES 1.6.4 Beta (Jun 2024), and typical EasyMint packages.

If I try to run older Netsurf 2.9 downloaded here https://www.netsurf-browser.org/downloads/atari/, this one works fine, but apparently has only the old deprecated TLS (that's why I want to run a newer build).

I'll be happy for any tips here.

Thanks a lot

Jan

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