Sunday, 15 November 2015

Re: Bug 2289: UI inconsistency - don't use no double negatives!

In message <5522e41db8webpages@sprow.co.uk>
Sprow <webpages@sprow.co.uk> wrote:

>On 14 Nov, NetSurf Bug Tracker <help@netsurf-browser.org> wrote:
>> ======================================================================
>> http://bugs.netsurf-browser.org/mantis/view.php?id=2289
>> ======================================================================
>> Reported By: Simon Smith Resolution: won't
>> fix
>>
>> Description: The RISC OS content config window has checkboxes for 'Hide
>> advertisements', 'Disable pop-up windows' and 'Disable Javascript'. So you
>> have to turn a checkbox /on/ to turn something /off/. That's a double
>> negative, which is confusing UI design. Please reverse the sense of the
>> checkboxes and adjust their names accordingly.
>
>As I can't append comments to tickets marked as closed, I'll spill over into
>this mailing list instead:
>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> (0001088) Dave Higton (developer) - 2015-11-14 21:06
>> http://bugs.netsurf-browser.org/mantis/view.php?id=2289#c1088
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> We discussed this issue at the recent Developer Weekend. There is no
>> perfect answer.
>>
> > The existing scheme has check boxes that are expected NOT to be ticked
> > for the normal case: advertisements allowed, pop-up windows allowed,
> > Javascript enabled.
> >
> > We chose to continue with the check boxes operation in this sense.
>
> Vincent's initial comment (note #0000768) stated that this issue only
> affected the RISC OS front end, and indeed when I checked the GTK version
> the options are phrased the other way round.
>
> The issue of poor wording of dialogues, in particular double negatives, is
> called out on page 66 of the Style Guide: "use the same sense for all
> options within a dialogue".
>
> Note, my patch didn't change any of the defaults, merely brought them into
> line with the other front ends.
>
> If you're choosing to not apply this to the RISC OS front end, then surely
> the ticket should be reopened and applied to the non RISC OS front ends so
> that they are phrased with double negatives; otherwise the logic for
> closing this one is flawed,
> Sprow.

Like I said, there is no perfect answer. We aren't going to satisfy
everybody.

By all means open a new issue, if you wish, to request to bring the
GTK (and any other applicable versions) into line.

Dave

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