In message <77431f2853.beeb@ron1954.woosh.co.nz>
Ron <beeb@woosh.co.nz> wrote:
> I created a new topic for the sake of clarity.
>
> > In message <b1ea532753.Jo@hobbes.bass-software.com>
> > John Tytgat <John.Tytgat@aaug.net> wrote:
>
> >> In message <f67e522753.beeb@ron1954.woosh.co.nz>
> >> Ron <beeb@woosh.co.nz> wrote:
>
> >>I still have the problem of textfile,xyz (where xyz is a recogniseable
> >> extension) causing tar to skip it.
> >> While it doesn't make much sense to have a file like that on the
> >> RISC OS filesystem (It should have been already converted by program foo)
> >> I'm aiming to be able to copy 'all' files verbatim and this is one
> >> that catches.
>
> >If you want to make that bullet proof Unixify should somehow escape the
> >"," in the RISC OS file name and you have to teach riscosify to do the
> >unescaping.
>
> Mmm, I'll keep it it mind. It only has to be done if the RISC OS file is
> type fff plus having ,xyz
> Types other than fff will actually work, but they go under the guise
> of non-textfile,xyz,xyz which is a bit messy looking but they do return
> with the type they left RISC OS with.
> I did try the force FFF ext riscosify option, but didn't see any
> change.
>
I haven't looked further into this yet.
> >
> >BTW, are RISC OS files "/" and "//" properly tar'd and can they be
> >untar'd on Unix ? :-)
>
> I checked Linux and you cant create "." or ".." but you can
> create "..."
> I have experimented and found I have my own conversion for the
> parsed top directory doing an 'up directory' when named "/" and on
> the subdirectories/files (tar internally) unixlib is just skipping
> everything below a "/" or "//"
>
<snip>
An easy way to examine the current unixlib conversion is to have
!Moonfish running and the shared directory open in RISC OS and Linux
simultaneously
I think the most natural way to allow "./." ".//." is to escape them
with the "\" character as this can be entered from the Linux side
in a normal way.
"\.\." as a name is OK under Linux and would allow creation of this
legitimate in RISC OS name, but the escape character "\" is being
converted to "?5C" at the moment.
Given that "\" is not allowed in a RISC OS name, I think all
occurrences of it could simply be removed at riscosifying time.
Instances of "./." or any number of purely "/" characters in a name
would be a special case requiring them to be preceded by as many
"\" as needed at unixifying time.
I am looking for the most likely way it would be implemented in
unixlib permanently so it would give all programs using ,xyz
compatibility one day.
Ron M.
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Sunday, 31 March 2013
Saturday, 30 March 2013
Updating SpriteExtend
On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 03:34:57 +1300, John-Mark Bell <jmb@netsurf-browser.org> wrote:
> On Sat, 2013-03-30 at 10:18 +0000, Michael Drake wrote:
>> In article <op.wuqk4kifif396l@alansall>,
>> Alan & Sally <jared.r@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
>>
>> > 2. On my Risc PC running 3.5 the NetSurf icon disappears with all
>> > versions I've tried since #734. When loaded there is a blank space on
>> > the icon bar. I can click on it and NetSurf appears and runs normally.
>> > The icon appears in the directory viewer immediately after download but
>> > disappears from the viewer leaving only the name once the programme is
>> > loaded.
>>
>> Sounds like something went wrong here:
>>
>> http://source.netsurf-browser.org/netsurf.git/commit/!NetSurf?id=a6b117fcb43b8afea584ff2e6ec3e808f27f8d9f
>>
>> I think the answer is probably to simply remove the ASprites.
>
> Or just ensure that a sufficiently modern SpriteExtend[1] is present,
> which is what I've done. However, it's worth reiterating that the
> earliest version of RISC OS we actually support is 4.02, so anyone
> running anything earlier is running the risk of things breaking.
>
>
> J.
>
> 1. Version 0.99, as found in RISC OS 3.60, which is rapidly approaching
> its 18th birthday. Seriously, people, upgrade your OS or don't
> expect modern software to run on it.
Many thanks. John and Michael. Removing ASprites files did not help but upgrading
SpriteExtend from 0.61 (in the 3.5 ROM) to 0.99 has fixed the problem.
I have been aware that 3.5 is no longer supported but I must say I have been
pleasantly surprised at how well NetSurf has run. Ever since discovering
NetSurf I have only had to update two or three modules.
Alan in N.Z.
> On Sat, 2013-03-30 at 10:18 +0000, Michael Drake wrote:
>> In article <op.wuqk4kifif396l@alansall>,
>> Alan & Sally <jared.r@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
>>
>> > 2. On my Risc PC running 3.5 the NetSurf icon disappears with all
>> > versions I've tried since #734. When loaded there is a blank space on
>> > the icon bar. I can click on it and NetSurf appears and runs normally.
>> > The icon appears in the directory viewer immediately after download but
>> > disappears from the viewer leaving only the name once the programme is
>> > loaded.
>>
>> Sounds like something went wrong here:
>>
>> http://source.netsurf-browser.org/netsurf.git/commit/!NetSurf?id=a6b117fcb43b8afea584ff2e6ec3e808f27f8d9f
>>
>> I think the answer is probably to simply remove the ASprites.
>
> Or just ensure that a sufficiently modern SpriteExtend[1] is present,
> which is what I've done. However, it's worth reiterating that the
> earliest version of RISC OS we actually support is 4.02, so anyone
> running anything earlier is running the risk of things breaking.
>
>
> J.
>
> 1. Version 0.99, as found in RISC OS 3.60, which is rapidly approaching
> its 18th birthday. Seriously, people, upgrade your OS or don't
> expect modern software to run on it.
Many thanks. John and Michael. Removing ASprites files did not help but upgrading
SpriteExtend from 0.61 (in the 3.5 ROM) to 0.99 has fixed the problem.
I have been aware that 3.5 is no longer supported but I must say I have been
pleasantly surprised at how well NetSurf has run. Ever since discovering
NetSurf I have only had to update two or three modules.
Alan in N.Z.
Re: NetSurf on Virtual Acorn
On Sat, 2013-03-30 at 10:18 +0000, Michael Drake wrote:
> In article <op.wuqk4kifif396l@alansall>,
> Alan & Sally <jared.r@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
>
> > 2. On my Risc PC running 3.5 the NetSurf icon disappears with all
> > versions I've tried since #734. When loaded there is a blank space on
> > the icon bar. I can click on it and NetSurf appears and runs normally.
> > The icon appears in the directory viewer immediately after download but
> > disappears from the viewer leaving only the name once the programme is
> > loaded.
>
> Sounds like something went wrong here:
>
> http://source.netsurf-browser.org/netsurf.git/commit/!NetSurf?id=a6b117fcb43b8afea584ff2e6ec3e808f27f8d9f
>
> I think the answer is probably to simply remove the ASprites.
Or just ensure that a sufficiently modern SpriteExtend[1] is present,
which is what I've done. However, it's worth reiterating that the
earliest version of RISC OS we actually support is 4.02, so anyone
running anything earlier is running the risk of things breaking.
J.
1. Version 0.99, as found in RISC OS 3.60, which is rapidly approaching
its 18th birthday. Seriously, people, upgrade your OS or don't
expect modern software to run on it.
> In article <op.wuqk4kifif396l@alansall>,
> Alan & Sally <jared.r@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
>
> > 2. On my Risc PC running 3.5 the NetSurf icon disappears with all
> > versions I've tried since #734. When loaded there is a blank space on
> > the icon bar. I can click on it and NetSurf appears and runs normally.
> > The icon appears in the directory viewer immediately after download but
> > disappears from the viewer leaving only the name once the programme is
> > loaded.
>
> Sounds like something went wrong here:
>
> http://source.netsurf-browser.org/netsurf.git/commit/!NetSurf?id=a6b117fcb43b8afea584ff2e6ec3e808f27f8d9f
>
> I think the answer is probably to simply remove the ASprites.
Or just ensure that a sufficiently modern SpriteExtend[1] is present,
which is what I've done. However, it's worth reiterating that the
earliest version of RISC OS we actually support is 4.02, so anyone
running anything earlier is running the risk of things breaking.
J.
1. Version 0.99, as found in RISC OS 3.60, which is rapidly approaching
its 18th birthday. Seriously, people, upgrade your OS or don't
expect modern software to run on it.
Re: dv #1012 continous loop > alt/break > freeze
> > > However, I then tried an Alt/Break > Quit on NetSurf, which exited
> > > cleanly - except that, trying to restart NetSurf gave a message,
> > > 'Cannot open <Wimp$ScrapDir> WWW.Netsurf.log for I/O redirection'
[snip]
Just a foot note. please. In examining the NetSurf.log I noticed the
following,
(299.280000) image/image_cache.c image_cache_fini 439: Total images never
rendered: 31 (includes 28 that were converted)
(299.280000) image/image_cache.c image_cache_fini 443: Total number of
excessive conversions: 0 (from 0 images converted more than once)
out of interest, is this significant in some way?
> > > cleanly - except that, trying to restart NetSurf gave a message,
> > > 'Cannot open <Wimp$ScrapDir> WWW.Netsurf.log for I/O redirection'
[snip]
Just a foot note. please. In examining the NetSurf.log I noticed the
following,
(299.280000) image/image_cache.c image_cache_fini 439: Total images never
rendered: 31 (includes 28 that were converted)
(299.280000) image/image_cache.c image_cache_fini 443: Total number of
excessive conversions: 0 (from 0 images converted more than once)
out of interest, is this significant in some way?
Re: NetSurf on Virtual Acorn
In article <op.wuqk4kifif396l@alansall>,
Alan & Sally <jared.r@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
> 2. On my Risc PC running 3.5 the NetSurf icon disappears with all
> versions I've tried since #734. When loaded there is a blank space on
> the icon bar. I can click on it and NetSurf appears and runs normally.
> The icon appears in the directory viewer immediately after download but
> disappears from the viewer leaving only the name once the programme is
> loaded.
Sounds like something went wrong here:
http://source.netsurf-browser.org/netsurf.git/commit/!NetSurf?id=a6b117fcb43b8afea584ff2e6ec3e808f27f8d9f
I think the answer is probably to simply remove the ASprites.
--
Michael Drake (tlsa) http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
Alan & Sally <jared.r@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
> 2. On my Risc PC running 3.5 the NetSurf icon disappears with all
> versions I've tried since #734. When loaded there is a blank space on
> the icon bar. I can click on it and NetSurf appears and runs normally.
> The icon appears in the directory viewer immediately after download but
> disappears from the viewer leaving only the name once the programme is
> loaded.
Sounds like something went wrong here:
http://source.netsurf-browser.org/netsurf.git/commit/!NetSurf?id=a6b117fcb43b8afea584ff2e6ec3e808f27f8d9f
I think the answer is probably to simply remove the ASprites.
--
Michael Drake (tlsa) http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
Friday, 29 March 2013
Re: NetSurf on Virtual Acorn
On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 21:53:12 +1300, David Pitt <pittdj@pittdj.co.uk> wrote:
> I have saved logs from a successful fetch with NetSurf 2.9 and a timeout
> from NetSurf 3.0 #833. The full logs are at :-
> http://pittdj.co.uk/temp/NSlogs.zip
>
> The interesting bits are :-
>
> NetSurf 3 #833 on Mac OS 10.8.2 - timed out
> [ ]
> NetSurf 2.90 on Mac OS 10.8.2 - successful
>
> [ ]
>
I have two problems with Netsurf.
1. Build #1013 will not connect to the internet. Still need to use 2.9. I have VARPC
on my Mac G5 PPC OS 10.5.8.
2. On my Risc PC running 3.5 the NetSurf icon disappears with all versions I've tried
since #734. When loaded there is a blank space on the icon bar. I can click on it
and NetSurf appears and runs normally. The icon appears in the directory viewer
immediately after download but disappears from the viewer leaving only the name
once the programme is loaded.
Iem 1. was the subject of some discussion in January but I haven't been aware of a
fix. I haven't seen any comment on item 2.
Cheers, Alan in N.Z.
> I have saved logs from a successful fetch with NetSurf 2.9 and a timeout
> from NetSurf 3.0 #833. The full logs are at :-
> http://pittdj.co.uk/temp/NSlogs.zip
>
> The interesting bits are :-
>
> NetSurf 3 #833 on Mac OS 10.8.2 - timed out
> [ ]
> NetSurf 2.90 on Mac OS 10.8.2 - successful
>
> [ ]
>
I have two problems with Netsurf.
1. Build #1013 will not connect to the internet. Still need to use 2.9. I have VARPC
on my Mac G5 PPC OS 10.5.8.
2. On my Risc PC running 3.5 the NetSurf icon disappears with all versions I've tried
since #734. When loaded there is a blank space on the icon bar. I can click on it
and NetSurf appears and runs normally. The icon appears in the directory viewer
immediately after download but disappears from the viewer leaving only the name
once the programme is loaded.
Iem 1. was the subject of some discussion in January but I haven't been aware of a
fix. I haven't seen any comment on item 2.
Cheers, Alan in N.Z.
Re: dv #1012 continous loop > alt/break > freeze
In article <53340ba4ecJohnRW@ukgateway.net>, John Williams
<JohnRW@ukgateway.net> wrote:
> In article <53340a963cbbailey@argonet.co.uk>, Brian Bailey
> <bbailey@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> > However, I then tried an Alt/Break > Quit on NetSurf, which exited
> > cleanly - except that, trying to restart NetSurf gave a message,
> > 'Cannot open <Wimp$ScrapDir> WWW.Netsurf.log for I/O redirection'
> You could have closed the logfile without rebooting using Ian Hamilton's
> CloseIt - that would have worked!
> If you don't have it, get it would be my advice.
Right. Never met the problem before.
Brian
<JohnRW@ukgateway.net> wrote:
> In article <53340a963cbbailey@argonet.co.uk>, Brian Bailey
> <bbailey@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> > However, I then tried an Alt/Break > Quit on NetSurf, which exited
> > cleanly - except that, trying to restart NetSurf gave a message,
> > 'Cannot open <Wimp$ScrapDir> WWW.Netsurf.log for I/O redirection'
> You could have closed the logfile without rebooting using Ian Hamilton's
> CloseIt - that would have worked!
> If you don't have it, get it would be my advice.
Right. Never met the problem before.
Brian
Re: dv #1012 continous loop > alt/break > freeze
In article <53340a963cbbailey@argonet.co.uk>,
Brian Bailey <bbailey@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> However, I then tried an Alt/Break > Quit on NetSurf, which exited cleanly
> - except that, trying to restart NetSurf gave a message,
> 'Cannot open <Wimp$ScrapDir> WWW.Netsurf.log for I/O redirection'
You could have closed the logfile without rebooting using Ian Hamilton's
CloseIt - that would have worked!
If you don't have it, get it would be my advice.
John
Brian Bailey <bbailey@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> However, I then tried an Alt/Break > Quit on NetSurf, which exited cleanly
> - except that, trying to restart NetSurf gave a message,
> 'Cannot open <Wimp$ScrapDir> WWW.Netsurf.log for I/O redirection'
You could have closed the logfile without rebooting using Ian Hamilton's
CloseIt - that would have worked!
If you don't have it, get it would be my advice.
John
dv #1012 continous loop > alt/break > freeze
In article <53338cd808bbailey@argonet.co.uk>,
Brian Bailey <bbailey@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi
> Of late, when loading Pluto mail with HTML content, sometimes rendering
> fails to complete, goes into a loop, and Alt/Break freezes the machine.
> A7000+ OS 4.02
Maybe simply lack of patience on my part.
Tried the same email again with dv #1013 plus JavaScript. HTML loaded
successfully.
However, I then tried an Alt/Break > Quit on NetSurf, which exited cleanly
- except that, trying to restart NetSurf gave a message,
'Cannot open <Wimp$ScrapDir> WWW.Netsurf.log for I/O redirection'
requiring a reboot before NetSurf would restart.
Then, examination of the log showed a previous successful exit.
Brian Bailey <bbailey@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi
> Of late, when loading Pluto mail with HTML content, sometimes rendering
> fails to complete, goes into a loop, and Alt/Break freezes the machine.
> A7000+ OS 4.02
Maybe simply lack of patience on my part.
Tried the same email again with dv #1013 plus JavaScript. HTML loaded
successfully.
However, I then tried an Alt/Break > Quit on NetSurf, which exited cleanly
- except that, trying to restart NetSurf gave a message,
'Cannot open <Wimp$ScrapDir> WWW.Netsurf.log for I/O redirection'
requiring a reboot before NetSurf would restart.
Then, examination of the log showed a previous successful exit.
Re: Image problems with Netsurf
In message <5333fcccdfdhwild@talktalk.net>
David H Wild <dhwild@talktalk.net> wrote:
> In article <532f53691fdhwild@talktalk.net>, David H Wild
> <dhwild@talktalk.net> wrote:
>> In article <532df036c4dhwild@talktalk.net>, David H Wild
>> <dhwild@talktalk.net> wrote:
>>> The initial page displays correctly but, when you click on one of the
>>> thumbnails you find that the little strip of images is missing with
>>> just the black square showing which is the selected picture appearing.
>>> That's with Javascript turned off. setting Javascript on means that
>>> the main picture doesn't appear either.
>> I'm glad to see that the image strip is now visible again. Is there a
>> chance that the main image will appear, soon, when JS is on?
> I'm disappointed to see that the problem is still there. When I have looked
> closely as the page loads I see that with JS on the picture isn't
> downloaded.
> Am I the only person seeing this problem?
Using NetSurf 1013 I can see this, though describing it as a "problem"
seems a little harsh, rather I would just describe it as a page which,
so far, doesn't render well in NetSurf. With JavaScript disabled the
site renders remarkably well given the nag on each page to use
JavaScript and to install Adobe Flash Player.
The issue on this page I would like to see fixed (if possible) is that
the breadcrumbs, "Photostream - Sets - Map - Fovorites" etc render as
a column rather than being arranged across the page; this with
JavaScript enabled or disabled.
--
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Virtual RPC-AdjustSA on Windows 8
RISC OS 6.20
David H Wild <dhwild@talktalk.net> wrote:
> In article <532f53691fdhwild@talktalk.net>, David H Wild
> <dhwild@talktalk.net> wrote:
>> In article <532df036c4dhwild@talktalk.net>, David H Wild
>> <dhwild@talktalk.net> wrote:
>>> The initial page displays correctly but, when you click on one of the
>>> thumbnails you find that the little strip of images is missing with
>>> just the black square showing which is the selected picture appearing.
>>> That's with Javascript turned off. setting Javascript on means that
>>> the main picture doesn't appear either.
>> I'm glad to see that the image strip is now visible again. Is there a
>> chance that the main image will appear, soon, when JS is on?
> I'm disappointed to see that the problem is still there. When I have looked
> closely as the page loads I see that with JS on the picture isn't
> downloaded.
> Am I the only person seeing this problem?
Using NetSurf 1013 I can see this, though describing it as a "problem"
seems a little harsh, rather I would just describe it as a page which,
so far, doesn't render well in NetSurf. With JavaScript disabled the
site renders remarkably well given the nag on each page to use
JavaScript and to install Adobe Flash Player.
The issue on this page I would like to see fixed (if possible) is that
the breadcrumbs, "Photostream - Sets - Map - Fovorites" etc render as
a column rather than being arranged across the page; this with
JavaScript enabled or disabled.
--
Brian Jordan
Virtual RPC-AdjustSA on Windows 8
RISC OS 6.20
Re: Image problems with Netsurf
In article <532f53691fdhwild@talktalk.net>, David H Wild
<dhwild@talktalk.net> wrote:
> In article <532df036c4dhwild@talktalk.net>, David H Wild
> <dhwild@talktalk.net> wrote:
> > The initial page displays correctly but, when you click on one of the
> > thumbnails you find that the little strip of images is missing with
> > just the black square showing which is the selected picture appearing.
> > That's with Javascript turned off. setting Javascript on means that
> > the main picture doesn't appear either.
> I'm glad to see that the image strip is now visible again. Is there a
> chance that the main image will appear, soon, when JS is on?
I'm disappointed to see that the problem is still there. When I have looked
closely as the page loads I see that with JS on the picture isn't
downloaded.
Am I the only person seeing this problem?
--
David Wild using RISC OS on broadband
www.davidhwild.me.uk
<dhwild@talktalk.net> wrote:
> In article <532df036c4dhwild@talktalk.net>, David H Wild
> <dhwild@talktalk.net> wrote:
> > The initial page displays correctly but, when you click on one of the
> > thumbnails you find that the little strip of images is missing with
> > just the black square showing which is the selected picture appearing.
> > That's with Javascript turned off. setting Javascript on means that
> > the main picture doesn't appear either.
> I'm glad to see that the image strip is now visible again. Is there a
> chance that the main image will appear, soon, when JS is on?
I'm disappointed to see that the problem is still there. When I have looked
closely as the page loads I see that with JS on the picture isn't
downloaded.
Am I the only person seeing this problem?
--
David Wild using RISC OS on broadband
www.davidhwild.me.uk
Re: CSRF verification failed
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 09:02:36PM +0000, Martin Bazley wrote:
> As the NetSurf team now appear to be gearing up for a 'stable' release,
> I must take this opportunity to attempt once more to push this bug back
> up the agenda:
> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3586760&group_id=51719&atid=464312
> Seriously. It's still happening in the latest build, and it doesn't
> happen in 2.9. It's perfectly and trivially reproducible. If not
> fixed, it will be a regression in 3.0. Round where I come from, that's
> a blocker.
I have confirmed this bug and posted a potential cause as a comment to the bug
tracker.
D.
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PGP mail accepted and encouraged. Key Id: 3CCE BABE 206C 3B69
> As the NetSurf team now appear to be gearing up for a 'stable' release,
> I must take this opportunity to attempt once more to push this bug back
> up the agenda:
> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3586760&group_id=51719&atid=464312
> Seriously. It's still happening in the latest build, and it doesn't
> happen in 2.9. It's perfectly and trivially reproducible. If not
> fixed, it will be a regression in 3.0. Round where I come from, that's
> a blocker.
I have confirmed this bug and posted a potential cause as a comment to the bug
tracker.
D.
--
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Thursday, 28 March 2013
CSRF verification failed
As the NetSurf team now appear to be gearing up for a 'stable' release,
I must take this opportunity to attempt once more to push this bug back
up the agenda:
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3586760&group_id=51719&atid=464312
Seriously. It's still happening in the latest build, and it doesn't
happen in 2.9. It's perfectly and trivially reproducible. If not
fixed, it will be a regression in 3.0. Round where I come from, that's
a blocker.
--
__<^>__ === RISC OS is a work of art. Some people adore it, ===
/ _ _ \ === others can't see the point of it, and it's really ===
( ( |_| ) ) === expensive. ===
\_> <_/ ======================= Martin Bazley ===================
I must take this opportunity to attempt once more to push this bug back
up the agenda:
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3586760&group_id=51719&atid=464312
Seriously. It's still happening in the latest build, and it doesn't
happen in 2.9. It's perfectly and trivially reproducible. If not
fixed, it will be a regression in 3.0. Round where I come from, that's
a blocker.
--
__<^>__ === RISC OS is a work of art. Some people adore it, ===
/ _ _ \ === others can't see the point of it, and it's really ===
( ( |_| ) ) === expensive. ===
\_> <_/ ======================= Martin Bazley ===================
Re: [Rpcemu] RPCEmu 0.8.10
Hi,
> I think it was mislead by incorrect headers from the marutan.net
> server.
This seemed familiar, and it was. I spent time diagnosing it about
three years ago.
http://www.mail-archive.com/rpcemu@riscos.info/msg00952.html
Cheers, Ralph.
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> I think it was mislead by incorrect headers from the marutan.net
> server.
This seemed familiar, and it was. I spent time diagnosing it about
three years ago.
http://www.mail-archive.com/rpcemu@riscos.info/msg00952.html
Cheers, Ralph.
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Re: [Rpcemu] RPCEmu 0.8.10
> Andre Timmermans wrote:
> > Regarding the source archive I can actually open it if I change its
> > extension from .tar.gz fro .tar.
>
> Odd. It's definitely a gzipped tar and not an uncompressed one
I suspect Andre's method of download decompressed it when creating the
local file but didn't change the filename. I think it was mislead by
incorrect headers from the marutan.net server.
$ curl -sSI 'http://www.marutan.net/rpcemu/cgi/download.php?sFName=0.8.10/rpcemu-0.8.10.tar.gz'
HTTP/1.1 302 Found
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 18:45:51 GMT
Server: Apache
Location: http://www.marutan.net/rpcemu/0.8.10/rpcemu-0.8.10.tar.gz
Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
$ curl -sSI http://www.marutan.net/rpcemu/0.8.10/rpcemu-0.8.10.tar.gz
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 18:46:04 GMT
Server: Apache
Last-Modified: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 17:05:29 GMT
ETag: "135008a-58f1f-4d8eb0b84a840"
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Content-Length: 364319
Content-Type: application/x-gzip
Content-Encoding: x-gzip
$
The `Content-Encoding: x-gzip' means that the data transferred has been
gzip'd and must be gunzip'd to obtain the `Content-Type:
application/x-gzip'; IOW, it's been double-gzip'd. Unfortunately, it
hasn't, nor would it make sense to do so, so the gunzip leaves a
non-gzip'd tar file called rpcemu-0.8.10.tar.gz.
Modern browsers, e.g. Firefox, have workarounds for broken servers.
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/httpd-dev/200207.mbox/%3C3D2D4E76.4010502@talex.com.pl%3E
is a little more background.
> and on my Linux box it decompresses fine whether it has a .tar or
> .tar.gz extension or no extension at all.
That's just a modern GNU tar looking at the file's contents rather than
relying on the filename.
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> > Regarding the source archive I can actually open it if I change its
> > extension from .tar.gz fro .tar.
>
> Odd. It's definitely a gzipped tar and not an uncompressed one
I suspect Andre's method of download decompressed it when creating the
local file but didn't change the filename. I think it was mislead by
incorrect headers from the marutan.net server.
$ curl -sSI 'http://www.marutan.net/rpcemu/cgi/download.php?sFName=0.8.10/rpcemu-0.8.10.tar.gz'
HTTP/1.1 302 Found
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 18:45:51 GMT
Server: Apache
Location: http://www.marutan.net/rpcemu/0.8.10/rpcemu-0.8.10.tar.gz
Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
$ curl -sSI http://www.marutan.net/rpcemu/0.8.10/rpcemu-0.8.10.tar.gz
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 18:46:04 GMT
Server: Apache
Last-Modified: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 17:05:29 GMT
ETag: "135008a-58f1f-4d8eb0b84a840"
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Content-Length: 364319
Content-Type: application/x-gzip
Content-Encoding: x-gzip
$
The `Content-Encoding: x-gzip' means that the data transferred has been
gzip'd and must be gunzip'd to obtain the `Content-Type:
application/x-gzip'; IOW, it's been double-gzip'd. Unfortunately, it
hasn't, nor would it make sense to do so, so the gunzip leaves a
non-gzip'd tar file called rpcemu-0.8.10.tar.gz.
Modern browsers, e.g. Firefox, have workarounds for broken servers.
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/httpd-dev/200207.mbox/%3C3D2D4E76.4010502@talex.com.pl%3E
is a little more background.
> and on my Linux box it decompresses fine whether it has a .tar or
> .tar.gz extension or no extension at all.
That's just a modern GNU tar looking at the file's contents rather than
relying on the filename.
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Re: [Rpcemu] RPCEmu 0.8.10
In article <2796FB2D03D57A4D816B2B61ADF569DD141A1A0A@DEFTHW99EZ3MSX.ww931.my-it-solutions.net>,
"Timmermans, Andre" <andre.timmermans@atos.net> wrote:
> Regarding the source archive I can actually open it if I change its
> extension from .tar.gz fro .tar.
Odd. It's definitely a gzipped tar and not an uncompressed one and on
my Linux box it decompresses fine whether it has a .tar or .tar.gz
extension or no extension at all. On what OS did you download it?
Regards,
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"Timmermans, Andre" <andre.timmermans@atos.net> wrote:
> Regarding the source archive I can actually open it if I change its
> extension from .tar.gz fro .tar.
Odd. It's definitely a gzipped tar and not an uncompressed one and on
my Linux box it decompresses fine whether it has a .tar or .tar.gz
extension or no extension at all. On what OS did you download it?
Regards,
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dv #1012 continous loop > alt/break > freeze
Hi
Of late, when loading Pluto mail with HTML content, sometimes rendering
fails to complete, goes into a loop, and Alt/Break freezes the machine.
A7000+ OS 4.02
Of late, when loading Pluto mail with HTML content, sometimes rendering
fails to complete, goes into a loop, and Alt/Break freezes the machine.
A7000+ OS 4.02
Re: copy and paste urls from webpage
The following bytes were arranged on 26 Mar 2013 by Richard Porter :
> Incidentally Shift-Select-click = Object > Link > Download target
One of the things I most wish NetSurf would do is an option to invoke
the download window externally - i.e. links sent over the AcornURI
protocol, which may have originated in an email, or possibly even
manually extracted from the source of a page which NetSurf doesn't want
to play nice with.
In the case that said link goes to, say, a large image, it would be so
useful to be able to directly download it without being forced to wait
for NetSurf to attempt to render it first.
This could probably be satisfactorily fixed just by adding an extra
button to the 'Open URL' window.
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> Incidentally Shift-Select-click = Object > Link > Download target
One of the things I most wish NetSurf would do is an option to invoke
the download window externally - i.e. links sent over the AcornURI
protocol, which may have originated in an email, or possibly even
manually extracted from the source of a page which NetSurf doesn't want
to play nice with.
In the case that said link goes to, say, a large image, it would be so
useful to be able to directly download it without being forced to wait
for NetSurf to attempt to render it first.
This could probably be satisfactorily fixed just by adding an extra
button to the 'Open URL' window.
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Re: [Rpcemu] RPCEmu 0.8.10
Regarding the source archive I can actually open it if I change its extension from .tar.gz fro .tar.
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Re: [Rpcemu] RPCEmu 0.8.10
In article <b54a333353.old_coaster@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>,
Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 27 Mar 2013, Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
> > In article <20130327171513.GA9402@spod.org>,
> > Peter Howkins <rpcemu.howkins@marutan.net> wrote:
> > > A new version of RPCEmu is available, 0.8.10
> [snip]
> > > * Windows
> >
> > > - Host CD-ROM drives now appear correctly in the CD-ROM submenu.
> [snip]
> > Well done chaps and thanks for the work.
> Seconded.
> > I can confirm the Host CD-ROM drive does now work, so whoopeee!
> >
> > But only if cdrom_type = 72 in rpc.cfg
> RO4.39 and 6.20 work for data CDs. Music CDs continue to crash RPCEmu.
> RO5.19 produces the error 'CD-ROM drive not found', for any CD type.
> Tony
So Whoopeee! turns into whoopsee... Ooer!
Indeedy you are so right Tony, I'd only tested it on a Data CD, but after
your note... Obviously not fixed.
Interestingly, yesterday when I returned the rpc.cfg, cdrom_type to the
default settings it didn't work on a Data CD either, I should have seen
the signs...
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Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 27 Mar 2013, Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
> > In article <20130327171513.GA9402@spod.org>,
> > Peter Howkins <rpcemu.howkins@marutan.net> wrote:
> > > A new version of RPCEmu is available, 0.8.10
> [snip]
> > > * Windows
> >
> > > - Host CD-ROM drives now appear correctly in the CD-ROM submenu.
> [snip]
> > Well done chaps and thanks for the work.
> Seconded.
> > I can confirm the Host CD-ROM drive does now work, so whoopeee!
> >
> > But only if cdrom_type = 72 in rpc.cfg
> RO4.39 and 6.20 work for data CDs. Music CDs continue to crash RPCEmu.
> RO5.19 produces the error 'CD-ROM drive not found', for any CD type.
> Tony
So Whoopeee! turns into whoopsee... Ooer!
Indeedy you are so right Tony, I'd only tested it on a Data CD, but after
your note... Obviously not fixed.
Interestingly, yesterday when I returned the rpc.cfg, cdrom_type to the
default settings it didn't work on a Data CD either, I should have seen
the signs...
Dave
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Re: [Rpcemu] RPCEmu 0.8.10
On 27 Mar 2013, Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <20130327171513.GA9402@spod.org>,
> Peter Howkins <rpcemu.howkins@marutan.net> wrote:
> > A new version of RPCEmu is available, 0.8.10
[snip]
> > * Windows
>
> > - Host CD-ROM drives now appear correctly in the CD-ROM submenu.
[snip]
> Well done chaps and thanks for the work.
Seconded.
> I can confirm the Host CD-ROM drive does now work, so whoopeee!
>
> But only if cdrom_type = 72 in rpc.cfg
RO4.39 and 6.20 work for data CDs. Music CDs continue to crash RPCEmu.
RO5.19 produces the error 'CD-ROM drive not found', for any CD type.
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> In article <20130327171513.GA9402@spod.org>,
> Peter Howkins <rpcemu.howkins@marutan.net> wrote:
> > A new version of RPCEmu is available, 0.8.10
[snip]
> > * Windows
>
> > - Host CD-ROM drives now appear correctly in the CD-ROM submenu.
[snip]
> Well done chaps and thanks for the work.
Seconded.
> I can confirm the Host CD-ROM drive does now work, so whoopeee!
>
> But only if cdrom_type = 72 in rpc.cfg
RO4.39 and 6.20 work for data CDs. Music CDs continue to crash RPCEmu.
RO5.19 produces the error 'CD-ROM drive not found', for any CD type.
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Re: [Rpcemu] RPCEmu 0.8.10
In article <20130327171513.GA9402@spod.org>,
Peter Howkins <rpcemu.howkins@marutan.net> wrote:
> A new version of RPCEmu is available, 0.8.10
> http://www.marutan.net/rpcemu/
> * All Platforms
> - Fix bug in emulation of SMLAL instruction in 32-bit DynaRec.
> - Fix bug in emulation of unaligned STR with Writeback in 32-bit
> DynaRec.
> - Fix bug in emulation of LDR/LDRB with Writeback in both 32-bit and
> 64-bit DynaRec.
> - Extensive code-refactoring enabling the above fixes, and in
> preparation for future improvements.
> * Windows
> - Host CD-ROM drives now appear correctly in the CD-ROM submenu.
> * Linux
> - A program icon has been added to the main Window.
> Note: Using the windows install to upgrade from
> previous versions may overwrite your cmos.ram
> and rpc.cfg files.
>
> Matthew Howkins
> Peter Howkins
Well done chaps and thanks for the work.
I can confirm the Host CD-ROM drive does now work, so whoopeee!
But only if cdrom_type = 72 in rpc.cfg
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Peter Howkins <rpcemu.howkins@marutan.net> wrote:
> A new version of RPCEmu is available, 0.8.10
> http://www.marutan.net/rpcemu/
> * All Platforms
> - Fix bug in emulation of SMLAL instruction in 32-bit DynaRec.
> - Fix bug in emulation of unaligned STR with Writeback in 32-bit
> DynaRec.
> - Fix bug in emulation of LDR/LDRB with Writeback in both 32-bit and
> 64-bit DynaRec.
> - Extensive code-refactoring enabling the above fixes, and in
> preparation for future improvements.
> * Windows
> - Host CD-ROM drives now appear correctly in the CD-ROM submenu.
> * Linux
> - A program icon has been added to the main Window.
> Note: Using the windows install to upgrade from
> previous versions may overwrite your cmos.ram
> and rpc.cfg files.
>
> Matthew Howkins
> Peter Howkins
Well done chaps and thanks for the work.
I can confirm the Host CD-ROM drive does now work, so whoopeee!
But only if cdrom_type = 72 in rpc.cfg
Dave
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Re: copy and paste urls from webpage
John Rickman Iyonix wrote on 26 Mar:
> Is there an easy way to select an url on a webpage in order to get it
> into the clipboard?
I never knew Shift-Adjust-click did this trick till Tony Moore
enlightened us here. And then, of course, I see that interactive Help
has been enlightening us all the time -- methinks I'll leave it
switched on now and then, even on familiar apps, to see what further
enlightenment I gain.
To export the url of the page you are ON (i.e., the addressbar, as
opposed to a link IN THE BODY of the page) simply drag* it to a
textfile. Or Shift-drag it to a directory, where it appears with the
filetype URL. Easier than using the menu "Page > Save location >
...".
(*Some versions of the OS allow ordinary drag to select parts of a
writable field such as the addressbar. In that case, use Ctrl-drag.
Those versions probably also support Ctrl-A Ctrl-C to copy the
contents of the addressbar to the clipboard.)
Netsurf's interactive help doesn't mention these actions.
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> Is there an easy way to select an url on a webpage in order to get it
> into the clipboard?
I never knew Shift-Adjust-click did this trick till Tony Moore
enlightened us here. And then, of course, I see that interactive Help
has been enlightening us all the time -- methinks I'll leave it
switched on now and then, even on familiar apps, to see what further
enlightenment I gain.
To export the url of the page you are ON (i.e., the addressbar, as
opposed to a link IN THE BODY of the page) simply drag* it to a
textfile. Or Shift-drag it to a directory, where it appears with the
filetype URL. Easier than using the menu "Page > Save location >
...".
(*Some versions of the OS allow ordinary drag to select parts of a
writable field such as the addressbar. In that case, use Ctrl-drag.
Those versions probably also support Ctrl-A Ctrl-C to copy the
contents of the addressbar to the clipboard.)
Netsurf's interactive help doesn't mention these actions.
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[Rpcemu] RPCEmu 0.8.10
A new version of RPCEmu is available, 0.8.10
http://www.marutan.net/rpcemu/
* All Platforms
- Fix bug in emulation of SMLAL instruction in 32-bit DynaRec.
- Fix bug in emulation of unaligned STR with Writeback in 32-bit
DynaRec.
- Fix bug in emulation of LDR/LDRB with Writeback in both 32-bit and
64-bit DynaRec.
- Extensive code-refactoring enabling the above fixes, and in
preparation for future improvements.
* Windows
- Host CD-ROM drives now appear correctly in the CD-ROM submenu.
* Linux
- A program icon has been added to the main Window.
Note: Using the windows install to upgrade from
previous versions may overwrite your cmos.ram
and rpc.cfg files.
Matthew Howkins
Peter Howkins
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* All Platforms
- Fix bug in emulation of SMLAL instruction in 32-bit DynaRec.
- Fix bug in emulation of unaligned STR with Writeback in 32-bit
DynaRec.
- Fix bug in emulation of LDR/LDRB with Writeback in both 32-bit and
64-bit DynaRec.
- Extensive code-refactoring enabling the above fixes, and in
preparation for future improvements.
* Windows
- Host CD-ROM drives now appear correctly in the CD-ROM submenu.
* Linux
- A program icon has been added to the main Window.
Note: Using the windows install to upgrade from
previous versions may overwrite your cmos.ram
and rpc.cfg files.
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Re: copy and paste urls from webpage
In message <5332eff287tim@timil.com>
Tim Hill <tim@timil.com> wrote:
> In article <b276e13253.alan@ntlworld.com>, Rev Dr Alan Leighton
> <alan.leighton2@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> In message <5332b46317tim@timil.com> Tim Hill <tim@timil.com> wrote:
>>> In article <7e0f9c3253.alan@ntlworld.com>, Rev Dr Alan Leighton
>>> <alan.leighton2@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>> [Snip]
>>>> Menu over the Netsurf page then use Page > Export >Text. Save text
>>>> into Ovation or Easi Writer and then delete what you do not need.
>>> Wow. That would be an extreme way of extracting a URL from even only
>>> a 20KB web page. If you've seen some of mine, you wouldn't want to do
>>> that unless you have lots of time to waste!
>>> As others have said, <Shift><Adjust> over the link pops up a URL save
>>> box which can even be dragged to a NetSurf address field or nearly
>>> anywhere else you want it to be.
>> Teach a wise man and he is yet wiser. I wouldn't call it extreme for
>> have done that for years and it really is quite flexible and quick.
>> Now to try your way.
> I was thinking particularly of a news page I maintain which can have tens
> of very similar links and to find the correct one in an editor you have
> to invoke search and still I have ended up with the wrong one! Agreed
> that on a very simple page, what you describe is adequate for the task.
> Pleased to see that <Select><Adjust> pops up in !Help with NetSurf so it
> shouldn't be news to anyone. ;-)
Oh I have just tried it. Super. Changing my ways now. Thanks
Alan
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> In article <b276e13253.alan@ntlworld.com>, Rev Dr Alan Leighton
> <alan.leighton2@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> In message <5332b46317tim@timil.com> Tim Hill <tim@timil.com> wrote:
>>> In article <7e0f9c3253.alan@ntlworld.com>, Rev Dr Alan Leighton
>>> <alan.leighton2@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>> [Snip]
>>>> Menu over the Netsurf page then use Page > Export >Text. Save text
>>>> into Ovation or Easi Writer and then delete what you do not need.
>>> Wow. That would be an extreme way of extracting a URL from even only
>>> a 20KB web page. If you've seen some of mine, you wouldn't want to do
>>> that unless you have lots of time to waste!
>>> As others have said, <Shift><Adjust> over the link pops up a URL save
>>> box which can even be dragged to a NetSurf address field or nearly
>>> anywhere else you want it to be.
>> Teach a wise man and he is yet wiser. I wouldn't call it extreme for
>> have done that for years and it really is quite flexible and quick.
>> Now to try your way.
> I was thinking particularly of a news page I maintain which can have tens
> of very similar links and to find the correct one in an editor you have
> to invoke search and still I have ended up with the wrong one! Agreed
> that on a very simple page, what you describe is adequate for the task.
> Pleased to see that <Select><Adjust> pops up in !Help with NetSurf so it
> shouldn't be news to anyone. ;-)
Oh I have just tried it. Super. Changing my ways now. Thanks
Alan
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Re: copy and paste urls from webpage
In article <b276e13253.alan@ntlworld.com>, Rev Dr Alan Leighton
<alan.leighton2@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> In message <5332b46317tim@timil.com> Tim Hill <tim@timil.com> wrote:
> > In article <7e0f9c3253.alan@ntlworld.com>, Rev Dr Alan Leighton
> > <alan.leighton2@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> > [Snip]
> >> Menu over the Netsurf page then use Page > Export >Text. Save text
> >> into Ovation or Easi Writer and then delete what you do not need.
> > Wow. That would be an extreme way of extracting a URL from even only
> > a 20KB web page. If you've seen some of mine, you wouldn't want to do
> > that unless you have lots of time to waste!
> > As others have said, <Shift><Adjust> over the link pops up a URL save
> > box which can even be dragged to a NetSurf address field or nearly
> > anywhere else you want it to be.
> Teach a wise man and he is yet wiser. I wouldn't call it extreme for
> have done that for years and it really is quite flexible and quick.
> Now to try your way.
I was thinking particularly of a news page I maintain which can have tens
of very similar links and to find the correct one in an editor you have
to invoke search and still I have ended up with the wrong one! Agreed
that on a very simple page, what you describe is adequate for the task.
Pleased to see that <Select><Adjust> pops up in !Help with NetSurf so it
shouldn't be news to anyone. ;-)
<alan.leighton2@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> In message <5332b46317tim@timil.com> Tim Hill <tim@timil.com> wrote:
> > In article <7e0f9c3253.alan@ntlworld.com>, Rev Dr Alan Leighton
> > <alan.leighton2@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> > [Snip]
> >> Menu over the Netsurf page then use Page > Export >Text. Save text
> >> into Ovation or Easi Writer and then delete what you do not need.
> > Wow. That would be an extreme way of extracting a URL from even only
> > a 20KB web page. If you've seen some of mine, you wouldn't want to do
> > that unless you have lots of time to waste!
> > As others have said, <Shift><Adjust> over the link pops up a URL save
> > box which can even be dragged to a NetSurf address field or nearly
> > anywhere else you want it to be.
> Teach a wise man and he is yet wiser. I wouldn't call it extreme for
> have done that for years and it really is quite flexible and quick.
> Now to try your way.
I was thinking particularly of a news page I maintain which can have tens
of very similar links and to find the correct one in an editor you have
to invoke search and still I have ended up with the wrong one! Agreed
that on a very simple page, what you describe is adequate for the task.
Pleased to see that <Select><Adjust> pops up in !Help with NetSurf so it
shouldn't be news to anyone. ;-)
Re: copy and paste urls from webpage
In message <5332b46317tim@timil.com>
Tim Hill <tim@timil.com> wrote:
> In article <7e0f9c3253.alan@ntlworld.com>, Rev Dr Alan Leighton
> <alan.leighton2@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> [Snip]
>> Menu over the Netsurf page then use Page > Export >Text. Save text
>> into Ovation or Easi Writer and then delete what you do not need.
> Wow. That would be an extreme way of extracting a URL from even only a
> 20KB web page. If you've seen some of mine, you wouldn't want to do that
> unless you have lots of time to waste!
> As others have said, <Shift><Adjust> over the link pops up a URL save box
> which can even be dragged to a NetSurf address field or nearly anywhere
> else you want it to be.
Teach a wise man and he is yet wiser. I wouldn't call it extreme for
have done that for years and it really is quite flexible and quick.
Now to try your way.
Thanks
Alan
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Tim Hill <tim@timil.com> wrote:
> In article <7e0f9c3253.alan@ntlworld.com>, Rev Dr Alan Leighton
> <alan.leighton2@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> [Snip]
>> Menu over the Netsurf page then use Page > Export >Text. Save text
>> into Ovation or Easi Writer and then delete what you do not need.
> Wow. That would be an extreme way of extracting a URL from even only a
> 20KB web page. If you've seen some of mine, you wouldn't want to do that
> unless you have lots of time to waste!
> As others have said, <Shift><Adjust> over the link pops up a URL save box
> which can even be dragged to a NetSurf address field or nearly anywhere
> else you want it to be.
Teach a wise man and he is yet wiser. I wouldn't call it extreme for
have done that for years and it really is quite flexible and quick.
Now to try your way.
Thanks
Alan
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Re: copy and paste urls from webpage
In article <7e0f9c3253.alan@ntlworld.com>, Rev Dr Alan Leighton
<alan.leighton2@ntlworld.com> wrote:
[Snip]
> Menu over the Netsurf page then use Page > Export >Text. Save text
> into Ovation or Easi Writer and then delete what you do not need.
Wow. That would be an extreme way of extracting a URL from even only a
20KB web page. If you've seen some of mine, you wouldn't want to do that
unless you have lots of time to waste!
As others have said, <Shift><Adjust> over the link pops up a URL save box
which can even be dragged to a NetSurf address field or nearly anywhere
else you want it to be.
<alan.leighton2@ntlworld.com> wrote:
[Snip]
> Menu over the Netsurf page then use Page > Export >Text. Save text
> into Ovation or Easi Writer and then delete what you do not need.
Wow. That would be an extreme way of extracting a URL from even only a
20KB web page. If you've seen some of mine, you wouldn't want to do that
unless you have lots of time to waste!
As others have said, <Shift><Adjust> over the link pops up a URL save box
which can even be dragged to a NetSurf address field or nearly anywhere
else you want it to be.
Re: copy and paste urls from webpage
On 26 Mar 2013 Tony Moore wrote:
> On 26 Mar 2013, Richard Porter <ricp@minijem.plus.com> wrote:
>> On 26 Mar 2013 John Rickman Iyonix wrote:
>>
>>> Is there an easy way to select an url on a webpage in order to get
>>> it into the clipboard?
>>
>> No. I use Object > Link > Save > Text and drag to !Edit on the icon
>> bar, then copy from there or save the file to where I want it.
> Shift-adjust-click on a link allows its URL to be saved where you will.
That's just a short cut for Object > Link > Save > ANT URL
It doesn't copy the URL to the clipboard.
Incidentally Shift-Select-click = Object > Link > Download target
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I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
> On 26 Mar 2013, Richard Porter <ricp@minijem.plus.com> wrote:
>> On 26 Mar 2013 John Rickman Iyonix wrote:
>>
>>> Is there an easy way to select an url on a webpage in order to get
>>> it into the clipboard?
>>
>> No. I use Object > Link > Save > Text and drag to !Edit on the icon
>> bar, then copy from there or save the file to where I want it.
> Shift-adjust-click on a link allows its URL to be saved where you will.
That's just a short cut for Object > Link > Save > ANT URL
It doesn't copy the URL to the clipboard.
Incidentally Shift-Select-click = Object > Link > Download target
--
Richard Porter http://www.minijem.plus.com/
mailto:ricp@minijem.plus.com
I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: copy and paste urls from webpage
In message <89f29a3253.old_coaster@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>
Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
[snip]
> Shift-adjust-click on a link allows its URL to be saved where you will.
Well I'll go to foot of my stairs* I never knew that -- thanks Tony!
Chris.
*Except I don't have any stairs...
> Tony
Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
[snip]
> Shift-adjust-click on a link allows its URL to be saved where you will.
Well I'll go to foot of my stairs* I never knew that -- thanks Tony!
Chris.
*Except I don't have any stairs...
> Tony
Re: copy and paste urls from webpage
Tony Moore wrote
> On 26 Mar 2013, Richard Porter <ricp@minijem.plus.com> wrote:
>> On 26 Mar 2013 John Rickman Iyonix wrote:
>>
>>> Is there an easy way to select an url on a webpage in order to get
>>> it into the clipboard?
>>
>> No. I use Object > Link > Save > Text and drag to !Edit on the icon
>> bar, then copy from there or save the file to where I want it.
> Shift-adjust-click on a link allows its URL to be saved where you will.
Thanks Tony - that is just what I was looking for!
John
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"Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darueber muss man schweigen."
> On 26 Mar 2013, Richard Porter <ricp@minijem.plus.com> wrote:
>> On 26 Mar 2013 John Rickman Iyonix wrote:
>>
>>> Is there an easy way to select an url on a webpage in order to get
>>> it into the clipboard?
>>
>> No. I use Object > Link > Save > Text and drag to !Edit on the icon
>> bar, then copy from there or save the file to where I want it.
> Shift-adjust-click on a link allows its URL to be saved where you will.
Thanks Tony - that is just what I was looking for!
John
--
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"Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darueber muss man schweigen."
Re: copy and paste urls from webpage
In message <c5fb963253.iyojohn@rickman.argonet.co.uk>
John Rickman Iyonix <rickman@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> Is there an easy way to select an url on a webpage in order to get it
> into the clipboard?
> If you try to stripe a selectable field the arrow pointer turns into
> the hand and it won't mark the text.
> If you start the stripe before the url or after the url and stripe
> backwards you always pick up extraneous characters.
Hi John,
Menu over the Netsurf page then use Page > Export >Text. Save text
into Ovation or Easi Writer and then delete what you do not need.
Cheers
Alan
--
John Rickman Iyonix <rickman@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> Is there an easy way to select an url on a webpage in order to get it
> into the clipboard?
> If you try to stripe a selectable field the arrow pointer turns into
> the hand and it won't mark the text.
> If you start the stripe before the url or after the url and stripe
> backwards you always pick up extraneous characters.
Hi John,
Menu over the Netsurf page then use Page > Export >Text. Save text
into Ovation or Easi Writer and then delete what you do not need.
Cheers
Alan
--
Re: copy and paste urls from webpage
On 26 Mar 2013, Richard Porter <ricp@minijem.plus.com> wrote:
> On 26 Mar 2013 John Rickman Iyonix wrote:
>
> > Is there an easy way to select an url on a webpage in order to get
> > it into the clipboard?
>
> No. I use Object > Link > Save > Text and drag to !Edit on the icon
> bar, then copy from there or save the file to where I want it.
Shift-adjust-click on a link allows its URL to be saved where you will.
Tony
> On 26 Mar 2013 John Rickman Iyonix wrote:
>
> > Is there an easy way to select an url on a webpage in order to get
> > it into the clipboard?
>
> No. I use Object > Link > Save > Text and drag to !Edit on the icon
> bar, then copy from there or save the file to where I want it.
Shift-adjust-click on a link allows its URL to be saved where you will.
Tony
Re: copy and paste urls from webpage
On 26 Mar 2013 John Rickman Iyonix wrote:
> Is there an easy way to select an url on a webpage in order to get it
> into the clipboard?
No. I use Object > Link > Save > Text and drag to !Edit on the icon
bar, then copy from there or save the file to where I want it.
I have an outstanding feature request to add
Menu > Object > Link > Copy to clipboard
--
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mailto:ricp@minijem.plus.com
I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
> Is there an easy way to select an url on a webpage in order to get it
> into the clipboard?
No. I use Object > Link > Save > Text and drag to !Edit on the icon
bar, then copy from there or save the file to where I want it.
I have an outstanding feature request to add
Menu > Object > Link > Copy to clipboard
--
Richard Porter http://www.minijem.plus.com/
mailto:ricp@minijem.plus.com
I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
copy and paste urls from webpage
Is there an easy way to select an url on a webpage in order to get it
into the clipboard?
If you try to stripe a selectable field the arrow pointer turns into
the hand and it won't mark the text.
If you start the stripe before the url or after the url and stripe
backwards you always pick up extraneous characters.
John
--
John Rickman - http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/lynx
- http://www.gaydon.org.uk/
into the clipboard?
If you try to stripe a selectable field the arrow pointer turns into
the hand and it won't mark the text.
If you start the stripe before the url or after the url and stripe
backwards you always pick up extraneous characters.
John
--
John Rickman - http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/lynx
- http://www.gaydon.org.uk/
Re: NetSurf 3.0
In article <e82c8c3253.martin@blueyonder.co.uk>,
Martin Bazley <martin.bazley@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> The following bytes were arranged on 26 Mar 2013 by Michael Drake :
> > http://www.netsurf-browser.org/temp/ChangeLog
> I'm sure this wasn't the kind of input you were asking for, but:
[snip]
Thanks, I've fixed those.
> Also, I'm thinking, depending on whether this log is intended for
It's just a list of changes. The release announcement will say in plain
english what the main changes are from a user's point of view.
For example, the NetSurf 2.9 announcement:
"NetSurf 2.9 contains many improvements over the previous release.
The most significant changes are new multi-tasking behaviour,
optimised URL handling, fetcher optimisations, cache optimisations,
and faster CSS selection."
http://vlists.pepperfish.net/pipermail/netsurf-users-netsurf-browser.org/2012-April/010811.html
--
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Martin Bazley <martin.bazley@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> The following bytes were arranged on 26 Mar 2013 by Michael Drake :
> > http://www.netsurf-browser.org/temp/ChangeLog
> I'm sure this wasn't the kind of input you were asking for, but:
[snip]
Thanks, I've fixed those.
> Also, I'm thinking, depending on whether this log is intended for
It's just a list of changes. The release announcement will say in plain
english what the main changes are from a user's point of view.
For example, the NetSurf 2.9 announcement:
"NetSurf 2.9 contains many improvements over the previous release.
The most significant changes are new multi-tasking behaviour,
optimised URL handling, fetcher optimisations, cache optimisations,
and faster CSS selection."
http://vlists.pepperfish.net/pipermail/netsurf-users-netsurf-browser.org/2012-April/010811.html
--
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Re: NetSurf 3.0
On Tue, 26 Mar 2013 15:06:42 +0000 (GMT), Michael Drake wrote:
> We're aiming to have NetSurf 3.0 ready for release on 20 April 2013.
>
> Ideally we'll be creating the release tag at least a week before that.
Will Jenkins be creating the release binaries?
Chris
> We're aiming to have NetSurf 3.0 ready for release on 20 April 2013.
>
> Ideally we'll be creating the release tag at least a week before that.
Will Jenkins be creating the release binaries?
Chris
Re: NetSurf 3.0
The following bytes were arranged on 26 Mar 2013 by Michael Drake :
> http://www.netsurf-browser.org/temp/ChangeLog
>
> Please check it over for anything missing, or wrong.
I'm sure this wasn't the kind of input you were asking for, but:
> Added early and promotive JavaScript support.
"primitive"?
> Textarea widget now supports double/trivial click selections.
"triple"?
> Use textarea widget for HTML form text, passowrd and textarea input.
"password"?
Also, I'm thinking, depending on whether this log is intended for
end-user or developer consumption, it might be a good idea to separate
out the user-facing changes/fixes ("Don't abort HTML redraw when bad
image fails to convert.") from under-the-bonnet ones ("Optimised file:
fetcher where mmap is available."). Some clearer prioritising of
particularly obvious fixes or particularly complex changes would be
nice, too. Again, I may be missing the point, though.
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> http://www.netsurf-browser.org/temp/ChangeLog
>
> Please check it over for anything missing, or wrong.
I'm sure this wasn't the kind of input you were asking for, but:
> Added early and promotive JavaScript support.
"primitive"?
> Textarea widget now supports double/trivial click selections.
"triple"?
> Use textarea widget for HTML form text, passowrd and textarea input.
"password"?
Also, I'm thinking, depending on whether this log is intended for
end-user or developer consumption, it might be a good idea to separate
out the user-facing changes/fixes ("Don't abort HTML redraw when bad
image fails to convert.") from under-the-bonnet ones ("Optimised file:
fetcher where mmap is available."). Some clearer prioritising of
particularly obvious fixes or particularly complex changes would be
nice, too. Again, I may be missing the point, though.
--
__<^>__ Red sky in the morning: Shepherd's warning
/ _ _ \ Red sky at night: Shepherd's delight
( ( |_| ) ) Mince and potatoes: Shepherd's pie
\_> <_/ ======================= Martin Bazley ==========================
NetSurf 3.0
We're aiming to have NetSurf 3.0 ready for release on 20 April 2013.
Ideally we'll be creating the release tag at least a week before that.
Currently the NetSurf 3.0 change log looks like this:
http://www.netsurf-browser.org/temp/ChangeLog
Please check it over for anything missing, or wrong.
Briefly, the big changes in the core are:
Using LibDOM instead of LibXML.
Fetch, parse of CSS in parallel with HTML.
New textareas.
And the (disabled by default) limited JS support.
Loads of fixes and internal tidying.
--
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Ideally we'll be creating the release tag at least a week before that.
Currently the NetSurf 3.0 change log looks like this:
http://www.netsurf-browser.org/temp/ChangeLog
Please check it over for anything missing, or wrong.
Briefly, the big changes in the core are:
Using LibDOM instead of LibXML.
Fetch, parse of CSS in parallel with HTML.
New textareas.
And the (disabled by default) limited JS support.
Loads of fixes and internal tidying.
--
Michael Drake (tlsa) http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
Re: Text area refresh
In article <4136879.Nb86WAdMgm@chertsey>,
Jean-François Lemaire <jflemaire@skynet.be> wrote:
> > I've updated the single line textarea (used for search boxes and
> > passwords), to reduce unnecessary redraw in some cases. Please try CI
> > build #1000 or later and let me know if it's any better.
> I tried the Atari build and indeed it is much better now. It would be
> fantastic if multi-line textareas could be improved in the same way.
Please try CI build #1009 or later. When editing multi-line textareas,
the redraw area has been reduced significantly in some common cases.
Cheers,
--
Michael Drake (tlsa) http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
Jean-François Lemaire <jflemaire@skynet.be> wrote:
> > I've updated the single line textarea (used for search boxes and
> > passwords), to reduce unnecessary redraw in some cases. Please try CI
> > build #1000 or later and let me know if it's any better.
> I tried the Atari build and indeed it is much better now. It would be
> fantastic if multi-line textareas could be improved in the same way.
Please try CI build #1009 or later. When editing multi-line textareas,
the redraw area has been reduced significantly in some common cases.
Cheers,
--
Michael Drake (tlsa) http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
Monday, 25 March 2013
Update notification
I have recently been ranting elsewhere about how banks could identify if a
bank account balance had changed since a previous access to avoid lengthy
authentication procedures to no sensible avail.
It occurs to me that the NetSurf download site could do something similar:
Leave a cookie with the last development version noted, and then only offer
a subsequent version, otherwise terminating the potential download, perhaps
with an appropriate message!
OK - makes my software potentially redundant - but so much more
user-friendly!
Just an idea, not thought through though (bedtime soon!).
John
bank account balance had changed since a previous access to avoid lengthy
authentication procedures to no sensible avail.
It occurs to me that the NetSurf download site could do something similar:
Leave a cookie with the last development version noted, and then only offer
a subsequent version, otherwise terminating the potential download, perhaps
with an appropriate message!
OK - makes my software potentially redundant - but so much more
user-friendly!
Just an idea, not thought through though (bedtime soon!).
John
Friday, 22 March 2013
Re: Text area refresh (Michael Drake)
>Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 00:28:11 +0100
>From: Ole <ole@monochrom.net>
>Subject: Re: Text area refresh
>
>
> Am Donnerstag, den 21.03.2013, 20:25 +0100 schrieb Jean-François
> Lemaire
>
>> I tried the Atari build and indeed it is much better now. It would be
>> fantastic if multi-line textareas could be improved in the same way.
>> Thanks
>> for this!
>
> Yes, typing results in no flickering now. Thanks!
Thanks Micheal that's a lot better.
Still a little flickering but it doesn't miss keystrokes like before.
I know it is a small improvement for everyone else but small performance
improvements will hopefully help allround.
Regards,
Peter
>From: Ole <ole@monochrom.net>
>Subject: Re: Text area refresh
>
>
> Am Donnerstag, den 21.03.2013, 20:25 +0100 schrieb Jean-François
> Lemaire
>
>> I tried the Atari build and indeed it is much better now. It would be
>> fantastic if multi-line textareas could be improved in the same way.
>> Thanks
>> for this!
>
> Yes, typing results in no flickering now. Thanks!
Thanks Micheal that's a lot better.
Still a little flickering but it doesn't miss keystrokes like before.
I know it is a small improvement for everyone else but small performance
improvements will hopefully help allround.
Regards,
Peter
Re: [pull] mmu_man/beos-fixes
On 22/03/2013 09:09, Daniel Silverstone wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 12:33:06AM +0100, François Revol wrote:
>> I just pushed some fixes for BeOS and Haiku:
>> http://source.netsurf-browser.org/netsurf.git/log/?h=mmu_man/beos-fixes
>> (3 commits):
>> * beos: Fix replicants
>> * beos: update copyright years in the version info
>> * beos: Fix nsfont_position_in_string off-by-1
>> (fixes selecting the 1st letter in a textarea)
>
> Merged from 48dc679d7bfe9f45bd50d86882d88a9ddb1d659c
>
> Hope that's right.
>
Yeah thx!
François.
> On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 12:33:06AM +0100, François Revol wrote:
>> I just pushed some fixes for BeOS and Haiku:
>> http://source.netsurf-browser.org/netsurf.git/log/?h=mmu_man/beos-fixes
>> (3 commits):
>> * beos: Fix replicants
>> * beos: update copyright years in the version info
>> * beos: Fix nsfont_position_in_string off-by-1
>> (fixes selecting the 1st letter in a textarea)
>
> Merged from 48dc679d7bfe9f45bd50d86882d88a9ddb1d659c
>
> Hope that's right.
>
Yeah thx!
François.
Re: [pull] mmu_man/beos-fixes
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 12:33:06AM +0100, François Revol wrote:
> I just pushed some fixes for BeOS and Haiku:
> http://source.netsurf-browser.org/netsurf.git/log/?h=mmu_man/beos-fixes
> (3 commits):
> * beos: Fix replicants
> * beos: update copyright years in the version info
> * beos: Fix nsfont_position_in_string off-by-1
> (fixes selecting the 1st letter in a textarea)
Merged from 48dc679d7bfe9f45bd50d86882d88a9ddb1d659c
Hope that's right.
D.
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> I just pushed some fixes for BeOS and Haiku:
> http://source.netsurf-browser.org/netsurf.git/log/?h=mmu_man/beos-fixes
> (3 commits):
> * beos: Fix replicants
> * beos: update copyright years in the version info
> * beos: Fix nsfont_position_in_string off-by-1
> (fixes selecting the 1st letter in a textarea)
Merged from 48dc679d7bfe9f45bd50d86882d88a9ddb1d659c
Hope that's right.
D.
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Thursday, 21 March 2013
[pull] mmu_man/beos-fixes
Hi,
I just pushed some fixes for BeOS and Haiku:
http://source.netsurf-browser.org/netsurf.git/log/?h=mmu_man/beos-fixes
(3 commits):
* beos: Fix replicants
* beos: update copyright years in the version info
* beos: Fix nsfont_position_in_string off-by-1
(fixes selecting the 1st letter in a textarea)
François.
I just pushed some fixes for BeOS and Haiku:
http://source.netsurf-browser.org/netsurf.git/log/?h=mmu_man/beos-fixes
(3 commits):
* beos: Fix replicants
* beos: update copyright years in the version info
* beos: Fix nsfont_position_in_string off-by-1
(fixes selecting the 1st letter in a textarea)
François.
Re: Text area refresh
Am Donnerstag, den 21.03.2013, 20:25 +0100 schrieb Jean-François
Lemaire
> I tried the Atari build and indeed it is much better now. It would be
> fantastic if multi-line textareas could be improved in the same way.
> Thanks
> for this!
Yes, typing results in no flickering now. Thanks!
Lemaire
> I tried the Atari build and indeed it is much better now. It would be
> fantastic if multi-line textareas could be improved in the same way.
> Thanks
> for this!
Yes, typing results in no flickering now. Thanks!
Re: dom_hubbub_parser_destroy crash
The following bytes were arranged on 21 Mar 2013 by Daniel Silverstone :
> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 06:38:25PM +0000, Martin Bazley wrote:
> > That depends entirely on what language it's written in, and how easy it
> > would be to test any changes made. (As in, do I have to wait for
> > someone to commit something, then send out an email to the mailing list
> > and cross my fingers?)
>
> Written in shell, and you can easily set up your own simple git server and test
> it.
>
> Still up for it?
My shell script experience is negligible, and I have trouble making the
evilness that is git work as a user, let alone as an administrator.
Sorry.
--
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/ _ _ \ white colour makes them less visible to the seals and penguins
( ( |_| ) ) they hunt." - Nelson Thornes AQA-endorsed GCSE science textbook
\_> <_/ ======================= Martin Bazley ==========================
> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 06:38:25PM +0000, Martin Bazley wrote:
> > That depends entirely on what language it's written in, and how easy it
> > would be to test any changes made. (As in, do I have to wait for
> > someone to commit something, then send out an email to the mailing list
> > and cross my fingers?)
>
> Written in shell, and you can easily set up your own simple git server and test
> it.
>
> Still up for it?
My shell script experience is negligible, and I have trouble making the
evilness that is git work as a user, let alone as an administrator.
Sorry.
--
__<^>__ "Did you know that polar bears stay white all year round? ...The
/ _ _ \ white colour makes them less visible to the seals and penguins
( ( |_| ) ) they hunt." - Nelson Thornes AQA-endorsed GCSE science textbook
\_> <_/ ======================= Martin Bazley ==========================
Re: Text area refresh
On Thursday 21 March 2013 19:01:53 Michael Drake wrote:
> In article <00112fcb.01dac5001d0b@smtp.freeola.net>,
>
> Peter Slegg <p.slegg@scubadivers.co.uk> wrote:
> > When typing in a textarea, each key press causes a refresh of the entire
> > textarea.
>
> I've updated the single line textarea (used for search boxes and
> passwords), to reduce unnecessary redraw in some cases. Please try CI
> build #1000 or later and let me know if it's any better.
I tried the Atari build and indeed it is much better now. It would be
fantastic if multi-line textareas could be improved in the same way. Thanks
for this!
Cheers,
JFL
--
Jean-François Lemaire
> In article <00112fcb.01dac5001d0b@smtp.freeola.net>,
>
> Peter Slegg <p.slegg@scubadivers.co.uk> wrote:
> > When typing in a textarea, each key press causes a refresh of the entire
> > textarea.
>
> I've updated the single line textarea (used for search boxes and
> passwords), to reduce unnecessary redraw in some cases. Please try CI
> build #1000 or later and let me know if it's any better.
I tried the Atari build and indeed it is much better now. It would be
fantastic if multi-line textareas could be improved in the same way. Thanks
for this!
Cheers,
JFL
--
Jean-François Lemaire
Re: dom_hubbub_parser_destroy crash
On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 06:38:25PM +0000, Martin Bazley wrote:
> That depends entirely on what language it's written in, and how easy it
> would be to test any changes made. (As in, do I have to wait for
> someone to commit something, then send out an email to the mailing list
> and cross my fingers?)
Written in shell, and you can easily set up your own simple git server and test
it.
Still up for it?
D.
--
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> That depends entirely on what language it's written in, and how easy it
> would be to test any changes made. (As in, do I have to wait for
> someone to commit something, then send out an email to the mailing list
> and cross my fingers?)
Written in shell, and you can easily set up your own simple git server and test
it.
Still up for it?
D.
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Re: Text area refresh
In article <00112fcb.01dac5001d0b@smtp.freeola.net>,
Peter Slegg <p.slegg@scubadivers.co.uk> wrote:
> When typing in a textarea, each key press causes a refresh of the entire
> textarea.
I've updated the single line textarea (used for search boxes and
passwords), to reduce unnecessary redraw in some cases. Please try CI
build #1000 or later and let me know if it's any better.
For multi-line textareas, it's a bit more complex. I'll work on them
next. I've already done little -- scrollbars won't be redrawn with every
letter you type now, unless the input actually forces the textarea to
scroll.
--
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Peter Slegg <p.slegg@scubadivers.co.uk> wrote:
> When typing in a textarea, each key press causes a refresh of the entire
> textarea.
I've updated the single line textarea (used for search boxes and
passwords), to reduce unnecessary redraw in some cases. Please try CI
build #1000 or later and let me know if it's any better.
For multi-line textareas, it's a bit more complex. I'll work on them
next. I've already done little -- scrollbars won't be redrawn with every
letter you type now, unless the input actually forces the textarea to
scroll.
--
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Re: dom_hubbub_parser_destroy crash
The following bytes were arranged on 21 Mar 2013 by Daniel Silverstone :
> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 05:29:42PM +0000, Martin Bazley wrote:
> > The one thing it really would be useful to have a summary of are all the
> > commit messages, which can currently only be found by interactively
> > searching for "commitdiff".
>
> I'm more likely to rewrite the script entirely at some point, so I
> don't really want to hack on it more for now.
>
> If you're up for it, I can send you the script, you can amend it and send it
> back.
That depends entirely on what language it's written in, and how easy it
would be to test any changes made. (As in, do I have to wait for
someone to commit something, then send out an email to the mailing list
and cross my fingers?)
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> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 05:29:42PM +0000, Martin Bazley wrote:
> > The one thing it really would be useful to have a summary of are all the
> > commit messages, which can currently only be found by interactively
> > searching for "commitdiff".
>
> I'm more likely to rewrite the script entirely at some point, so I
> don't really want to hack on it more for now.
>
> If you're up for it, I can send you the script, you can amend it and send it
> back.
That depends entirely on what language it's written in, and how easy it
would be to test any changes made. (As in, do I have to wait for
someone to commit something, then send out an email to the mailing list
and cross my fingers?)
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( ( |_| ) ) Mince and potatoes: Shepherd's pie
\_> <_/ ======================= Martin Bazley ==========================
Re: dom_hubbub_parser_destroy crash
On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 05:29:42PM +0000, Martin Bazley wrote:
> Oh, well, if you're working on it anyway...
You're about 24h late on that one :-)
> Would it be possible to stop generating the summary section at the end?
> I find it doesn't really add anything and doubles the length of the
> emails.
It would
> The one thing it really would be useful to have a summary of are all the
> commit messages, which can currently only be found by interactively
> searching for "commitdiff".
I'm more likely to rewrite the script entirely at some point, so I don't really
want to hack on it more for now.
If you're up for it, I can send you the script, you can amend it and send it
back.
D.
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> Oh, well, if you're working on it anyway...
You're about 24h late on that one :-)
> Would it be possible to stop generating the summary section at the end?
> I find it doesn't really add anything and doubles the length of the
> emails.
It would
> The one thing it really would be useful to have a summary of are all the
> commit messages, which can currently only be found by interactively
> searching for "commitdiff".
I'm more likely to rewrite the script entirely at some point, so I don't really
want to hack on it more for now.
If you're up for it, I can send you the script, you can amend it and send it
back.
D.
--
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Re: dom_hubbub_parser_destroy crash
The following bytes were arranged on 20 Mar 2013 by Daniel Silverstone :
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 12:48:30PM +0000, Martin Bazley wrote:
> > "Invalid request"? Try this:
> > http://git.netsurf-browser.org/netsurf.git/commit/?id=5930e4bcc46f8e49c34e5630cf875f2b055502ff
>
> Oooh bug in the commit mail script, well spotted.
>
> I shall fix that.
Oh, well, if you're working on it anyway...
Would it be possible to stop generating the summary section at the end?
I find it doesn't really add anything and doubles the length of the
emails.
The one thing it really would be useful to have a summary of are all the
commit messages, which can currently only be found by interactively
searching for "commitdiff".
--
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( ( |_| ) )
\_> <_/ ======================= Martin Bazley ==========================
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 12:48:30PM +0000, Martin Bazley wrote:
> > "Invalid request"? Try this:
> > http://git.netsurf-browser.org/netsurf.git/commit/?id=5930e4bcc46f8e49c34e5630cf875f2b055502ff
>
> Oooh bug in the commit mail script, well spotted.
>
> I shall fix that.
Oh, well, if you're working on it anyway...
Would it be possible to stop generating the summary section at the end?
I find it doesn't really add anything and doubles the length of the
emails.
The one thing it really would be useful to have a summary of are all the
commit messages, which can currently only be found by interactively
searching for "commitdiff".
--
__<^>__
/ _ _ \ I don't have a problem with God; it's his fan club I can't stand.
( ( |_| ) )
\_> <_/ ======================= Martin Bazley ==========================
Wednesday, 20 March 2013
Re: dom_hubbub_parser_destroy crash
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 12:48:30PM +0000, Martin Bazley wrote:
> "Invalid request"? Try this:
> http://git.netsurf-browser.org/netsurf.git/commit/?id=5930e4bcc46f8e49c34e5630cf875f2b055502ff
Oooh bug in the commit mail script, well spotted.
I shall fix that.
D.
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> "Invalid request"? Try this:
> http://git.netsurf-browser.org/netsurf.git/commit/?id=5930e4bcc46f8e49c34e5630cf875f2b055502ff
Oooh bug in the commit mail script, well spotted.
I shall fix that.
D.
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Re: dom_hubbub_parser_destroy crash
The following bytes were arranged on 19 Mar 2013 by John-Mark Bell :
> This was fixed in the following commit:
>
> http://git.netsurf-browser.org/netsurf.git/commitdiff/5930e4bcc46f8e49c34e5630cf875f2b055502ff
"Invalid request"? Try this:
http://git.netsurf-browser.org/netsurf.git/commit/?id=5930e4bcc46f8e49c34e5630cf875f2b055502ff
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( ( |_| ) )
\_> <_/ ======================= Martin Bazley ==========================
> This was fixed in the following commit:
>
> http://git.netsurf-browser.org/netsurf.git/commitdiff/5930e4bcc46f8e49c34e5630cf875f2b055502ff
"Invalid request"? Try this:
http://git.netsurf-browser.org/netsurf.git/commit/?id=5930e4bcc46f8e49c34e5630cf875f2b055502ff
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( ( |_| ) )
\_> <_/ ======================= Martin Bazley ==========================
Re: Image problems with Netsurf
In article <532df036c4dhwild@talktalk.net>,
David H Wild <dhwild@talktalk.net> wrote:
> The initial page displays correctly but, when you click on one of the
> thumbnails you find that the little strip of images is missing with just
> the black square showing which is the selected picture appearing. That's
> with Javascript turned off. setting Javascript on means that the main
> picture doesn't appear either.
I'm glad to see that the image strip is now visible again. Is there a
chance that the main image will appear, soon, when JS is on?
--
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www.davidhwild.me.uk
David H Wild <dhwild@talktalk.net> wrote:
> The initial page displays correctly but, when you click on one of the
> thumbnails you find that the little strip of images is missing with just
> the black square showing which is the selected picture appearing. That's
> with Javascript turned off. setting Javascript on means that the main
> picture doesn't appear either.
I'm glad to see that the image strip is now visible again. Is there a
chance that the main image will appear, soon, when JS is on?
--
David Wild using RISC OS on broadband
www.davidhwild.me.uk
Tuesday, 19 March 2013
Re: dom_hubbub_parser_destroy crash
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 21:43:56 +0000, John-Mark Bell wrote:
> This was fixed in the following commit:
>
> http://git.netsurf-browser.org/netsurf.git/commitdiff/5930e4bcc46f8e49c34e5630cf875f2b055502ff
Excellent, thanks.
Chris
> This was fixed in the following commit:
>
> http://git.netsurf-browser.org/netsurf.git/commitdiff/5930e4bcc46f8e49c34e5630cf875f2b055502ff
Excellent, thanks.
Chris
Re: dom_hubbub_parser_destroy crash
On Sun, 2013-03-17 at 18:00 +0100, Chris Young wrote:
> This has been happening randomly since I updated NetSurf, so it
> appears to have been caused by a change within the last week.
>
> I can't provide anything other than the stack trace at this time,
> unfortunately.
>
> Stack trace:
> libdom.so.0:dom_hubbub_parser_destroy()+0x1c (section 12 @ 0xC20)
> [render/html.c:135] NetSurf:html_box_convert_done()+0x280 (section 8 @ 0x114FF4)
> [render/box_construct.c:562] NetSurf:convert_xml_to_box()+0x330 (section 8 @ 0x1058D8)
> [amiga/schedule.c:176] NetSurf:schedule_run()+0x144 (section 8 @ 0x52288)
> [amiga/gui.c:2485] NetSurf:gui_poll()+0x44 (section 8 @ 0x2199C)
> [desktop/netsurf.c:250] NetSurf:netsurf_main_loop()+0x30 (section 8 @ 0xD5DF8)
This was fixed in the following commit:
http://git.netsurf-browser.org/netsurf.git/commitdiff/5930e4bcc46f8e49c34e5630cf875f2b055502ff
J.
> This has been happening randomly since I updated NetSurf, so it
> appears to have been caused by a change within the last week.
>
> I can't provide anything other than the stack trace at this time,
> unfortunately.
>
> Stack trace:
> libdom.so.0:dom_hubbub_parser_destroy()+0x1c (section 12 @ 0xC20)
> [render/html.c:135] NetSurf:html_box_convert_done()+0x280 (section 8 @ 0x114FF4)
> [render/box_construct.c:562] NetSurf:convert_xml_to_box()+0x330 (section 8 @ 0x1058D8)
> [amiga/schedule.c:176] NetSurf:schedule_run()+0x144 (section 8 @ 0x52288)
> [amiga/gui.c:2485] NetSurf:gui_poll()+0x44 (section 8 @ 0x2199C)
> [desktop/netsurf.c:250] NetSurf:netsurf_main_loop()+0x30 (section 8 @ 0xD5DF8)
This was fixed in the following commit:
http://git.netsurf-browser.org/netsurf.git/commitdiff/5930e4bcc46f8e49c34e5630cf875f2b055502ff
J.
Text area refresh
While work is being done on textareas maybe it is a good time to raise this again ?
When typing in a textarea, each key press causes a refresh of the entire textarea.
You may not notice this on a fast cpu but on a 68060 it is very noticeable
and the more text there is, the slower it gets.
Could this be improved by just refreshing the current line ?
Regards,
Peter
When typing in a textarea, each key press causes a refresh of the entire textarea.
You may not notice this on a fast cpu but on a 68060 it is very noticeable
and the more text there is, the slower it gets.
Could this be improved by just refreshing the current line ?
Regards,
Peter
Re: Find !Fetch_NS
In article <e456c82e53.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>, Peter Young
<pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> wrote:
> However the (anonymous, German) author of that version, heavily modified
> from John's original, specifically asked that questions or comments about
> this version should not be posted here, but instead to c.s.a.apps.
> I suggest we take it there, where I will be pleased to try to explain how
> to configure that version, which involves changing some if its obey files.
> That is, if it's still of interest to anyone. It's certainly off-topic
> here.
As John Williams pointed out, it seems to be Frank de Bruijn. The aconet
website, which is the home of Fetch_NS has a little bit of Dutch at the top &
has the brilliant CrypStore, which I know is one of his apps.
http://aconet.org/tools/index.php
On delving a bit further into Fetch_NS, I need to alter the settings file to
tell it where my Netsurf is stored to make it work best. As suggested, I'll
now take this over to c.s.a. apps.
Thanks for help so far.
--
Chris
<pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> wrote:
> However the (anonymous, German) author of that version, heavily modified
> from John's original, specifically asked that questions or comments about
> this version should not be posted here, but instead to c.s.a.apps.
> I suggest we take it there, where I will be pleased to try to explain how
> to configure that version, which involves changing some if its obey files.
> That is, if it's still of interest to anyone. It's certainly off-topic
> here.
As John Williams pointed out, it seems to be Frank de Bruijn. The aconet
website, which is the home of Fetch_NS has a little bit of Dutch at the top &
has the brilliant CrypStore, which I know is one of his apps.
http://aconet.org/tools/index.php
On delving a bit further into Fetch_NS, I need to alter the settings file to
tell it where my Netsurf is stored to make it work best. As suggested, I'll
now take this over to c.s.a. apps.
Thanks for help so far.
--
Chris
Re: Find !Fetch_NS
Brian Jordan wrote
>> But a good day happens about one in three. More common is that it
>> forces NS to quit, deletes the current NS then fails to find the new
>> one. So I have to complete the job manually.
> Try having your de-archiving program (SparkFS or whatever) loaded and
> on the icon bar before you run FetchNS. This improved the success rate
> to 100% here (admittedly on a sample of only 3 downloads) after having
> exactly the problem you describe; I imagine something in FetchNS times
> out while waiting for the archive to be opened.
Thanks - that appears to be the solution - with a sample size of
one:-)
--
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>> But a good day happens about one in three. More common is that it
>> forces NS to quit, deletes the current NS then fails to find the new
>> one. So I have to complete the job manually.
> Try having your de-archiving program (SparkFS or whatever) loaded and
> on the icon bar before you run FetchNS. This improved the success rate
> to 100% here (admittedly on a sample of only 3 downloads) after having
> exactly the problem you describe; I imagine something in FetchNS times
> out while waiting for the archive to be opened.
Thanks - that appears to be the solution - with a sample size of
one:-)
--
John Rickman - http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/lynx
Re: Find !Fetch_NS
On 19 Mar 2013 John Williams <JohnRW@ukgateway.net> wrote:
> In article <e456c82e53.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>,
> Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> wrote:
>> However the (anonymous, German) author
> Frank de Bruijn - Dutch, surely?
Thanks for the double correction!
>> of that version, heavily modified from John's original,
> because I prefer to see what's going on myself and make my own decisions
I can see that, but you have a lot of technical knowledge that a lot
of us don't have. Some of us like to keep things simple.
>> specifically asked that questions or comments about this version should
>> not be posted here, but instead to c.s.a.apps
> at my suggestion, IIRC. Wrath is best avoided!
You probably recall correctly. However, druck is conspicuous by his
absence when threads go off-topic these days. Maybe marriage has
softened him up a bit :-)
With best wishes,
Peter.
--
Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family
Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
pnyoung@ormail.co.uk
> In article <e456c82e53.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>,
> Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> wrote:
>> However the (anonymous, German) author
> Frank de Bruijn - Dutch, surely?
Thanks for the double correction!
>> of that version, heavily modified from John's original,
> because I prefer to see what's going on myself and make my own decisions
I can see that, but you have a lot of technical knowledge that a lot
of us don't have. Some of us like to keep things simple.
>> specifically asked that questions or comments about this version should
>> not be posted here, but instead to c.s.a.apps
> at my suggestion, IIRC. Wrath is best avoided!
You probably recall correctly. However, druck is conspicuous by his
absence when threads go off-topic these days. Maybe marriage has
softened him up a bit :-)
With best wishes,
Peter.
--
Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family
Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
pnyoung@ormail.co.uk
Re: Find !Fetch_NS
In article <e456c82e53.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>,
Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> wrote:
> However the (anonymous, German) author
Frank de Bruijn - Dutch, surely?
> of that version, heavily modified from John's original,
because I prefer to see what's going on myself and make my own decisions
> specifically asked that questions or comments about this version should
> not be posted here, but instead to c.s.a.apps
at my suggestion, IIRC. Wrath is best avoided!
John
Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> wrote:
> However the (anonymous, German) author
Frank de Bruijn - Dutch, surely?
> of that version, heavily modified from John's original,
because I prefer to see what's going on myself and make my own decisions
> specifically asked that questions or comments about this version should
> not be posted here, but instead to c.s.a.apps
at my suggestion, IIRC. Wrath is best avoided!
John
Re: Find !Fetch_NS
On 18 Mar 2013 Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
> In article <f6d26d2e53.iyojohn@rickman.argonet.co.uk>,
> John Rickman Iyonix <rickman@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
>> Michael Drake wrote
>>> In article <532e67d218cvjazz@waitrose.com>,
>>> Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
>>>> I've lost the link to !Fetch_NS.
>>> Out of interest, why don't people just visit
>>> http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/riscos/?C=M;O=D
>>> And download either of the top two archives (depending on whether they
>>> want a JavaScript build), and run it like any other peice of software?
>>> At least they'll know what software they're running if they fetched it
>>> themselves.
>> Its because, on a good day**, it will automatically delete the current
>> version of NetSurf and replace it with the latest version if it has
>> changed.
> Er? My copy (2.10 of 17-12-2012) doesn't dd that. it just downloads the
> latest zip file. I have to manually delete the old & instigate the new. Have
> I missed something?
Probably. I have that version, and it does delete the current version,
and unpack and run the new one.
However the (anonymous, German) author of that version, heavily
modified from John's original, specifically asked that questions or
comments about this version should not be posted here, but instead to
c.s.a.apps.
I suggest we take it there, where I will be pleased to try to explain
how to configure that version, which involves changing some if its
obey files. That is, if it's still of interest to anyone. It's
certainly off-topic here.
With best wishes,
Peter.
--
Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family
Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
pnyoung@ormail.co.uk
> In article <f6d26d2e53.iyojohn@rickman.argonet.co.uk>,
> John Rickman Iyonix <rickman@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
>> Michael Drake wrote
>>> In article <532e67d218cvjazz@waitrose.com>,
>>> Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
>>>> I've lost the link to !Fetch_NS.
>>> Out of interest, why don't people just visit
>>> http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/riscos/?C=M;O=D
>>> And download either of the top two archives (depending on whether they
>>> want a JavaScript build), and run it like any other peice of software?
>>> At least they'll know what software they're running if they fetched it
>>> themselves.
>> Its because, on a good day**, it will automatically delete the current
>> version of NetSurf and replace it with the latest version if it has
>> changed.
> Er? My copy (2.10 of 17-12-2012) doesn't dd that. it just downloads the
> latest zip file. I have to manually delete the old & instigate the new. Have
> I missed something?
Probably. I have that version, and it does delete the current version,
and unpack and run the new one.
However the (anonymous, German) author of that version, heavily
modified from John's original, specifically asked that questions or
comments about this version should not be posted here, but instead to
c.s.a.apps.
I suggest we take it there, where I will be pleased to try to explain
how to configure that version, which involves changing some if its
obey files. That is, if it's still of interest to anyone. It's
certainly off-topic here.
With best wishes,
Peter.
--
Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family
Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
pnyoung@ormail.co.uk
Monday, 18 March 2013
Re: Find !Fetch_NS
In message <1850912e53.iyojohn@rickman.argonet.co.uk>
John Rickman Iyonix <rickman@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
[snip]
> But a good day happens about one in three. More common is that it
> forces NS to quit, deletes the current NS then fails to find the new
> one. So I have to complete the job manually.
Try having your de-archiving program (SparkFS or whatever) loaded and
on the icon bar before you run FetchNS. This improved the success rate
to 100% here (admittedly on a sample of only 3 downloads) after having
exactly the problem you describe; I imagine something in FetchNS times
out while waiting for the archive to be opened.
Anyway it isn't too hard to download the archives from the Netsurf
site and manually install the program and I have reverted to doing it
that way.
--
Brian Jordan
Virtual RPC-AdjustSA on Windows 8
RISC OS 6.20
John Rickman Iyonix <rickman@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
[snip]
> But a good day happens about one in three. More common is that it
> forces NS to quit, deletes the current NS then fails to find the new
> one. So I have to complete the job manually.
Try having your de-archiving program (SparkFS or whatever) loaded and
on the icon bar before you run FetchNS. This improved the success rate
to 100% here (admittedly on a sample of only 3 downloads) after having
exactly the problem you describe; I imagine something in FetchNS times
out while waiting for the archive to be opened.
Anyway it isn't too hard to download the archives from the Netsurf
site and manually install the program and I have reverted to doing it
that way.
--
Brian Jordan
Virtual RPC-AdjustSA on Windows 8
RISC OS 6.20
Re: Find !Fetch_NS
Allan Bennett wrote on 18 Mar:
> Try here:
> http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/riscos/
> Scroll to the bottom for the latest release (ie highest number) -
> wouldn't it be nice if that was at the top?
It IS at the top if you use the slightly different link that
Michael Drake gave earlier today:
http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/riscos/?C=M;O=D
--
Jim Nagel www.archivemag.co.uk
See you at Wakefield? www.wakefieldshow.org.uk April 20
> Try here:
> http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/riscos/
> Scroll to the bottom for the latest release (ie highest number) -
> wouldn't it be nice if that was at the top?
It IS at the top if you use the slightly different link that
Michael Drake gave earlier today:
http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/riscos/?C=M;O=D
--
Jim Nagel www.archivemag.co.uk
See you at Wakefield? www.wakefieldshow.org.uk April 20
Re: New textareas and text inputs
In article <6d83742e53.Gary@nochance.onetel.co.uk>,
Gary Jones <localnews@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> Saving selected text or copy to clipboard from a textarea doesn't work
> (can't remember if they ever did).
Those menu options should work in the latest build. Thanks for reporting.
--
Michael Drake (tlsa) http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
Gary Jones <localnews@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> Saving selected text or copy to clipboard from a textarea doesn't work
> (can't remember if they ever did).
Those menu options should work in the latest build. Thanks for reporting.
--
Michael Drake (tlsa) http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
Re: Find !Fetch_NS
In article <1850912e53.iyojohn@rickman.argonet.co.uk>,
John Rickman Iyonix <rickman@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> Chris Newman wrote
> >> Its because, on a good day**, it will automatically delete the current
> >> version of NetSurf and replace it with the latest version if it has
> >> changed.
> > Er? My copy (2.10 of 17-12-2012) doesn't dd that. it just downloads the
> > latest zip file. I have to manually delete the old & instigate the new. Have
> > I missed something?
> That is the same as mine - Fetch_NS version 2.10 of 17-12-2012 which
> does what I said above. Before deleting the old version it also quits
> any NetSurf that is running then restarts the new one.
> But a good day happens about one in three. More common is that it
> forces NS to quit, deletes the current NS then fails to find the new
> one. So I have to complete the job manually.
How odd. I see you seem to be on an Iyonix so RiscOS 6? Could that make a
difference? I can't see how. I wonder what behaviour others get. I've re-read
the idiots guide & can't see much to help but I will have a look at where I
put wget/ curl.
--
Chris
John Rickman Iyonix <rickman@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> Chris Newman wrote
> >> Its because, on a good day**, it will automatically delete the current
> >> version of NetSurf and replace it with the latest version if it has
> >> changed.
> > Er? My copy (2.10 of 17-12-2012) doesn't dd that. it just downloads the
> > latest zip file. I have to manually delete the old & instigate the new. Have
> > I missed something?
> That is the same as mine - Fetch_NS version 2.10 of 17-12-2012 which
> does what I said above. Before deleting the old version it also quits
> any NetSurf that is running then restarts the new one.
> But a good day happens about one in three. More common is that it
> forces NS to quit, deletes the current NS then fails to find the new
> one. So I have to complete the job manually.
How odd. I see you seem to be on an Iyonix so RiscOS 6? Could that make a
difference? I can't see how. I wonder what behaviour others get. I've re-read
the idiots guide & can't see much to help but I will have a look at where I
put wget/ curl.
--
Chris
Re: Find !Fetch_NS
Chris Newman wrote
>> Its because, on a good day**, it will automatically delete the current
>> version of NetSurf and replace it with the latest version if it has
>> changed.
> Er? My copy (2.10 of 17-12-2012) doesn't dd that. it just downloads the
> latest zip file. I have to manually delete the old & instigate the new. Have
> I missed something?
That is the same as mine - Fetch_NS version 2.10 of 17-12-2012 which
does what I said above. Before deleting the old version it also quits
any NetSurf that is running then restarts the new one.
But a good day happens about one in three. More common is that it
forces NS to quit, deletes the current NS then fails to find the new
one. So I have to complete the job manually.
--
John Rickman - http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/lynx
Ein nasser Vogel fliegt nicht bei Nacht - Das ist der Sinn des Lebens.
>> Its because, on a good day**, it will automatically delete the current
>> version of NetSurf and replace it with the latest version if it has
>> changed.
> Er? My copy (2.10 of 17-12-2012) doesn't dd that. it just downloads the
> latest zip file. I have to manually delete the old & instigate the new. Have
> I missed something?
That is the same as mine - Fetch_NS version 2.10 of 17-12-2012 which
does what I said above. Before deleting the old version it also quits
any NetSurf that is running then restarts the new one.
But a good day happens about one in three. More common is that it
forces NS to quit, deletes the current NS then fails to find the new
one. So I have to complete the job manually.
--
John Rickman - http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/lynx
Ein nasser Vogel fliegt nicht bei Nacht - Das ist der Sinn des Lebens.
Re: Find !Fetch_NS
In article <f6d26d2e53.iyojohn@rickman.argonet.co.uk>,
John Rickman Iyonix <rickman@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> Michael Drake wrote
> > In article <532e67d218cvjazz@waitrose.com>,
> > Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
> >> I've lost the link to !Fetch_NS.
> > Out of interest, why don't people just visit
> > http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/riscos/?C=M;O=D
> > And download either of the top two archives (depending on whether they
> > want a JavaScript build), and run it like any other peice of software?
> > At least they'll know what software they're running if they fetched it
> > themselves.
> Its because, on a good day**, it will automatically delete the current
> version of NetSurf and replace it with the latest version if it has
> changed.
Er? My copy (2.10 of 17-12-2012) doesn't dd that. it just downloads the
latest zip file. I have to manually delete the old & instigate the new. Have
I missed something?
--
Chris
John Rickman Iyonix <rickman@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> Michael Drake wrote
> > In article <532e67d218cvjazz@waitrose.com>,
> > Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
> >> I've lost the link to !Fetch_NS.
> > Out of interest, why don't people just visit
> > http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/riscos/?C=M;O=D
> > And download either of the top two archives (depending on whether they
> > want a JavaScript build), and run it like any other peice of software?
> > At least they'll know what software they're running if they fetched it
> > themselves.
> Its because, on a good day**, it will automatically delete the current
> version of NetSurf and replace it with the latest version if it has
> changed.
Er? My copy (2.10 of 17-12-2012) doesn't dd that. it just downloads the
latest zip file. I have to manually delete the old & instigate the new. Have
I missed something?
--
Chris
Re: Find !Fetch_NS
In article <86bb852e53.SuperAl@albenito.eclipse2k.freeserve.co.uk>,
Allan Bennett <albenito@eclipse2k.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> Surely?
Please don't call me ...
Allan Bennett <albenito@eclipse2k.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> Surely?
Please don't call me ...
Re: Find !Fetch_NS
In message <532e84b530Stuartlists@orpheusinternet.co.uk>
lists <Stuartlists@orpheusinternet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <2b13812e53.SuperAl@albenito.eclipse2k.freeserve.co.uk>,
> Allan Bennett <albenito@eclipse2k.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>> * Drag the blue !Netsurf icon over your existing copy if you have
>> one...
> No. Create a new dated directory with the latest version in and start
> using it. If you experience problems go back to the one you were using
> previously.
But that can be done by deleting the one in use and opening the
previous zip file.
Having just one operating version 'visible' in the filer means it
works automagically on boot-up or when a URL on my pinboard is
activated. !Fetch_NS works like this, doesn't it?
No need for extra directories - the numbered zip files serve that
purpose.
Surely?
--
Allan Bennett
lists <Stuartlists@orpheusinternet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <2b13812e53.SuperAl@albenito.eclipse2k.freeserve.co.uk>,
> Allan Bennett <albenito@eclipse2k.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>> * Drag the blue !Netsurf icon over your existing copy if you have
>> one...
> No. Create a new dated directory with the latest version in and start
> using it. If you experience problems go back to the one you were using
> previously.
But that can be done by deleting the one in use and opening the
previous zip file.
Having just one operating version 'visible' in the filer means it
works automagically on boot-up or when a URL on my pinboard is
activated. !Fetch_NS works like this, doesn't it?
No need for extra directories - the numbered zip files serve that
purpose.
Surely?
--
Allan Bennett
Re: Find !Fetch_NS
In article <2b13812e53.SuperAl@albenito.eclipse2k.freeserve.co.uk>,
Allan Bennett <albenito@eclipse2k.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> * Drag the blue !Netsurf icon over your existing copy if you have
> one...
No. Create a new dated directory with the latest version in and start
using it. If you experience problems go back to the one you were using
previously.
--
Stuart Winsor
Only plain text for emails
http://www.asciiribbon.org
Allan Bennett <albenito@eclipse2k.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> * Drag the blue !Netsurf icon over your existing copy if you have
> one...
No. Create a new dated directory with the latest version in and start
using it. If you experience problems go back to the one you were using
previously.
--
Stuart Winsor
Only plain text for emails
http://www.asciiribbon.org
Re: Find !Fetch_NS
In message <9a8e7b2e53.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>
Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> wrote:
> On 18 Mar 2013 John Rickman Iyonix <rickman@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
>> Peter Young wrote
>>> Pardon my ignorance, but where can find what has changed? I've looked
>>> for this, but have never found it, not that it would make a whole lot
>>> of sense to me, perhaps!
>> http://git.netsurf-browser.org/
> Thanks, I had in fact found that. I'm sure it means something to
> somebody, but as I rather expected ...
> I'll leave it all to the experts, and will continue to be grateful to
> the expert developers.
I see what you mean.
Try here:
http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/riscos/
Scroll to the bottom for the latest release (ie highest number) -
wouldn't it be nice if that was at the top?
Click on the blue writing (notice the pointer changes to a little
hand with a rude pointy finger) which will download the zip file
Position caret before the release number in the Destination box and
press Ctrl-K which deletes superfluous parts of the file name
Drag the zip icon (top of the download window) to the already opened
filer window on your Hard Drive
When it's located, Double-Click on it to open
Drag the blue !Netsurf icon over your existing copy if you have
one...
Couldn't be simpler... or could it?
Hope that helps :-)
--
Allan Bennett
Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> wrote:
> On 18 Mar 2013 John Rickman Iyonix <rickman@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
>> Peter Young wrote
>>> Pardon my ignorance, but where can find what has changed? I've looked
>>> for this, but have never found it, not that it would make a whole lot
>>> of sense to me, perhaps!
>> http://git.netsurf-browser.org/
> Thanks, I had in fact found that. I'm sure it means something to
> somebody, but as I rather expected ...
> I'll leave it all to the experts, and will continue to be grateful to
> the expert developers.
I see what you mean.
Try here:
http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/riscos/
Scroll to the bottom for the latest release (ie highest number) -
wouldn't it be nice if that was at the top?
Click on the blue writing (notice the pointer changes to a little
hand with a rude pointy finger) which will download the zip file
Position caret before the release number in the Destination box and
press Ctrl-K which deletes superfluous parts of the file name
Drag the zip icon (top of the download window) to the already opened
filer window on your Hard Drive
When it's located, Double-Click on it to open
Drag the blue !Netsurf icon over your existing copy if you have
one...
Couldn't be simpler... or could it?
Hope that helps :-)
--
Allan Bennett
Re: Find !Fetch_NS
Peter Young wrote
> On 18 Mar 2013 John Rickman Iyonix <rickman@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
>> Peter Young wrote
>>> Pardon my ignorance, but where can find what has changed? I've looked
>>> for this, but have never found it, not that it would make a whole lot
>>> of sense to me, perhaps!
>> http://git.netsurf-browser.org/
> Thanks, I had in fact found that. I'm sure it means something to
> somebody, but as I rather expected ...
Just look down the idle column for green text. If it is on the same
line, click "NetSurf Browser" and read all about it, and who done it:)
--
John Rickman - http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/lynx
No sé nada, y no estoy seguro de éso
> On 18 Mar 2013 John Rickman Iyonix <rickman@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
>> Peter Young wrote
>>> Pardon my ignorance, but where can find what has changed? I've looked
>>> for this, but have never found it, not that it would make a whole lot
>>> of sense to me, perhaps!
>> http://git.netsurf-browser.org/
> Thanks, I had in fact found that. I'm sure it means something to
> somebody, but as I rather expected ...
Just look down the idle column for green text. If it is on the same
line, click "NetSurf Browser" and read all about it, and who done it:)
--
John Rickman - http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/lynx
No sé nada, y no estoy seguro de éso
Re: Find !Fetch_NS
On 18 Mar 2013 John Rickman Iyonix <rickman@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> Peter Young wrote
>> Pardon my ignorance, but where can find what has changed? I've looked
>> for this, but have never found it, not that it would make a whole lot
>> of sense to me, perhaps!
> http://git.netsurf-browser.org/
Thanks, I had in fact found that. I'm sure it means something to
somebody, but as I rather expected ...
I'll leave it all to the experts, and will continue to be grateful to
the expert developers.
With best wishes,
Peter.
--
Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family
Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
pnyoung@ormail.co.uk
> Peter Young wrote
>> Pardon my ignorance, but where can find what has changed? I've looked
>> for this, but have never found it, not that it would make a whole lot
>> of sense to me, perhaps!
> http://git.netsurf-browser.org/
Thanks, I had in fact found that. I'm sure it means something to
somebody, but as I rather expected ...
I'll leave it all to the experts, and will continue to be grateful to
the expert developers.
With best wishes,
Peter.
--
Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family
Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
pnyoung@ormail.co.uk
Re: Find !Fetch_NS
Peter Young wrote
> Pardon my ignorance, but where can find what has changed? I've looked
> for this, but have never found it, not that it would make a whole lot
> of sense to me, perhaps!
http://git.netsurf-browser.org/
john
--
John Rickman - http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/lynx
Tout a été dit, mais comme personne n'écoute, il faut toujours
répéter.
> Pardon my ignorance, but where can find what has changed? I've looked
> for this, but have never found it, not that it would make a whole lot
> of sense to me, perhaps!
http://git.netsurf-browser.org/
john
--
John Rickman - http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/lynx
Tout a été dit, mais comme personne n'écoute, il faut toujours
répéter.
Re: New textareas and text inputs
In message <532e69813dtlsa@netsurf-browser.org>
Michael Drake <tlsa@netsurf-browser.org> wrote:
> In article <531c85f3cdtlsa@netsurf-browser.org>,
> Michael Drake <tlsa@netsurf-browser.org> wrote:
>> - Doesn't support shift+left/right to move caret word-by-word.
>> - Doesn't support selection adjustment (altering an existing selection.)
> Both implemented now.
>> - When you select text in a textarea, any text selections elsewhere
>> in the window don't get cleared.
>> - When you scroll a textarea, the caret can move outside the textarea.
> Both fixed now.
> Please test the textareas in the latest build.
Yes, these seem to work for me. Thank you.
Saving selected text or copy to clipboard from a textarea doesn't work
(can't remember if they ever did). The only Selection menu entry
available is Select All ^A
Gary
--
Gary Jones
Michael Drake <tlsa@netsurf-browser.org> wrote:
> In article <531c85f3cdtlsa@netsurf-browser.org>,
> Michael Drake <tlsa@netsurf-browser.org> wrote:
>> - Doesn't support shift+left/right to move caret word-by-word.
>> - Doesn't support selection adjustment (altering an existing selection.)
> Both implemented now.
>> - When you select text in a textarea, any text selections elsewhere
>> in the window don't get cleared.
>> - When you scroll a textarea, the caret can move outside the textarea.
> Both fixed now.
> Please test the textareas in the latest build.
Yes, these seem to work for me. Thank you.
Saving selected text or copy to clipboard from a textarea doesn't work
(can't remember if they ever did). The only Selection menu entry
available is Select All ^A
Gary
--
Gary Jones
Re: Find !Fetch_NS
On 18 Mar 2013 John Rickman Iyonix <rickman@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> Michael Drake wrote
>> In article <532e67d218cvjazz@waitrose.com>,
>> Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
>>> I've lost the link to !Fetch_NS.
>> Out of interest, why don't people just visit
>> http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/riscos/?C=M;O=D
>> And download either of the top two archives (depending on whether they
>> want a JavaScript build), and run it like any other peice of software?
>> At least they'll know what software they're running if they fetched it
>> themselves.
> Its because, on a good day**, it will automatically delete the current
> version of NetSurf and replace it with the latest version if it has
> changed.
I totally agree with this reason for using Fetch_NS. Mind you, I think
there are more than one version of it floating around; the one I have
says it's version 2.10, but I can't remember who wrote this. It's
certainly very different from the original version. A note in the !Run
file says, "This is a seriously modified version of John Williams'
Fetch_NS."
> FWIW I always look at the development site to see what has changed. If
> NS has changed and the change is likely to be relevant to RISC OS then
> I run the fetch program.
Pardon my ignorance, but where can find what has changed? I've looked
for this, but have never found it, not that it would make a whole lot
of sense to me, perhaps!
> ** on a bad day the fetch works but the fetcher stops saying it can't
> find the file it has just down loaded. (...vita brevis est)
Never had that happen here!
With best wishes,
Peter.
--
Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family
Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
pnyoung@ormail.co.uk
> Michael Drake wrote
>> In article <532e67d218cvjazz@waitrose.com>,
>> Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
>>> I've lost the link to !Fetch_NS.
>> Out of interest, why don't people just visit
>> http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/riscos/?C=M;O=D
>> And download either of the top two archives (depending on whether they
>> want a JavaScript build), and run it like any other peice of software?
>> At least they'll know what software they're running if they fetched it
>> themselves.
> Its because, on a good day**, it will automatically delete the current
> version of NetSurf and replace it with the latest version if it has
> changed.
I totally agree with this reason for using Fetch_NS. Mind you, I think
there are more than one version of it floating around; the one I have
says it's version 2.10, but I can't remember who wrote this. It's
certainly very different from the original version. A note in the !Run
file says, "This is a seriously modified version of John Williams'
Fetch_NS."
> FWIW I always look at the development site to see what has changed. If
> NS has changed and the change is likely to be relevant to RISC OS then
> I run the fetch program.
Pardon my ignorance, but where can find what has changed? I've looked
for this, but have never found it, not that it would make a whole lot
of sense to me, perhaps!
> ** on a bad day the fetch works but the fetcher stops saying it can't
> find the file it has just down loaded. (...vita brevis est)
Never had that happen here!
With best wishes,
Peter.
--
Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family
Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
pnyoung@ormail.co.uk
Re: Find !Fetch_NS
In article <532e691ca1tlsa@netsurf-browser.org>,
Michael Drake <tlsa@netsurf-browser.org> wrote:
> In article <532e67d218cvjazz@waitrose.com>,
> Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
> > I've lost the link to !Fetch_NS.
> Out of interest, why don't people just visit
> http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/riscos/?C=M;O=D
> And download either of the top two archives (depending on whether they
> want a JavaScript build), and run it like any other peice of software?
> At least they'll know what software they're running if they fetched it
> themselves.
Quite so.
--
Stuart Winsor
Only plain text for emails
http://www.asciiribbon.org
Michael Drake <tlsa@netsurf-browser.org> wrote:
> In article <532e67d218cvjazz@waitrose.com>,
> Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
> > I've lost the link to !Fetch_NS.
> Out of interest, why don't people just visit
> http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/riscos/?C=M;O=D
> And download either of the top two archives (depending on whether they
> want a JavaScript build), and run it like any other peice of software?
> At least they'll know what software they're running if they fetched it
> themselves.
Quite so.
--
Stuart Winsor
Only plain text for emails
http://www.asciiribbon.org
Re: Find !Fetch_NS
Michael Drake wrote
> In article <532e67d218cvjazz@waitrose.com>,
> Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
>> I've lost the link to !Fetch_NS.
> Out of interest, why don't people just visit
> http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/riscos/?C=M;O=D
> And download either of the top two archives (depending on whether they
> want a JavaScript build), and run it like any other peice of software?
> At least they'll know what software they're running if they fetched it
> themselves.
Its because, on a good day**, it will automatically delete the current
version of NetSurf and replace it with the latest version if it has
changed.
FWIW I always look at the development site to see what has changed. If
NS has changed and the change is likely to be relevant to RISC OS then
I run the fetch program.
** on a bad day the fetch works but the fetcher stops saying it can't
find the file it has just down loaded. (...vita brevis est)
--
John Rickman - http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/lynx
"Poetry is a MUG's game" - TS Eliot
> In article <532e67d218cvjazz@waitrose.com>,
> Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
>> I've lost the link to !Fetch_NS.
> Out of interest, why don't people just visit
> http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/riscos/?C=M;O=D
> And download either of the top two archives (depending on whether they
> want a JavaScript build), and run it like any other peice of software?
> At least they'll know what software they're running if they fetched it
> themselves.
Its because, on a good day**, it will automatically delete the current
version of NetSurf and replace it with the latest version if it has
changed.
FWIW I always look at the development site to see what has changed. If
NS has changed and the change is likely to be relevant to RISC OS then
I run the fetch program.
** on a bad day the fetch works but the fetcher stops saying it can't
find the file it has just down loaded. (...vita brevis est)
--
John Rickman - http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/lynx
"Poetry is a MUG's game" - TS Eliot
Re: Find !Fetch_NS
In article <1C002746D5F.00000485dave@davehigton.me.uk>,
Dave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:
> > From: cvjazz@waitrose.com
> > Sent: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:13:35 +0000 (GMT)
> > To: netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org
> > Subject: Find !Fetch_NS
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've lost the link to !Fetch_NS. Can anyone point me in the right
> > direction
> > please. There was nothing in the help file to assist.
> It's at http://aconet.org/tools/index.php
Thanks, Dave.
--
Chris
Dave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:
> > From: cvjazz@waitrose.com
> > Sent: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:13:35 +0000 (GMT)
> > To: netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org
> > Subject: Find !Fetch_NS
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've lost the link to !Fetch_NS. Can anyone point me in the right
> > direction
> > please. There was nothing in the help file to assist.
> It's at http://aconet.org/tools/index.php
Thanks, Dave.
--
Chris
Re: New textareas and text inputs
In article <531c85f3cdtlsa@netsurf-browser.org>,
Michael Drake <tlsa@netsurf-browser.org> wrote:
> - Doesn't support shift+left/right to move caret word-by-word.
> - Doesn't support selection adjustment (altering an existing selection.)
Both implemented now.
> - When you select text in a textarea, any text selections elsewhere
> in the window don't get cleared.
> - When you scroll a textarea, the caret can move outside the textarea.
Both fixed now.
Please test the textareas in the latest build.
--
Michael Drake (tlsa) http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
Michael Drake <tlsa@netsurf-browser.org> wrote:
> - Doesn't support shift+left/right to move caret word-by-word.
> - Doesn't support selection adjustment (altering an existing selection.)
Both implemented now.
> - When you select text in a textarea, any text selections elsewhere
> in the window don't get cleared.
> - When you scroll a textarea, the caret can move outside the textarea.
Both fixed now.
Please test the textareas in the latest build.
--
Michael Drake (tlsa) http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
Re: Find !Fetch_NS
In article <532e67d218cvjazz@waitrose.com>,
Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
> I've lost the link to !Fetch_NS.
Out of interest, why don't people just visit
http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/riscos/?C=M;O=D
And download either of the top two archives (depending on whether they
want a JavaScript build), and run it like any other peice of software?
At least they'll know what software they're running if they fetched it
themselves.
--
Michael Drake (tlsa) http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
> I've lost the link to !Fetch_NS.
Out of interest, why don't people just visit
http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/riscos/?C=M;O=D
And download either of the top two archives (depending on whether they
want a JavaScript build), and run it like any other peice of software?
At least they'll know what software they're running if they fetched it
themselves.
--
Michael Drake (tlsa) http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
RE: Find !Fetch_NS
> From: cvjazz@waitrose.com
> Sent: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:13:35 +0000 (GMT)
> To: netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org
> Subject: Find !Fetch_NS
>
> Hi,
>
> I've lost the link to !Fetch_NS. Can anyone point me in the right
> direction
> please. There was nothing in the help file to assist.
It's at http://aconet.org/tools/index.php
Dave
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> Sent: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:13:35 +0000 (GMT)
> To: netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org
> Subject: Find !Fetch_NS
>
> Hi,
>
> I've lost the link to !Fetch_NS. Can anyone point me in the right
> direction
> please. There was nothing in the help file to assist.
It's at http://aconet.org/tools/index.php
Dave
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Find !Fetch_NS
Hi,
I've lost the link to !Fetch_NS. Can anyone point me in the right direction
please. There was nothing in the help file to assist.
Regards,
--
Chris
I've lost the link to !Fetch_NS. Can anyone point me in the right direction
please. There was nothing in the help file to assist.
Regards,
--
Chris
Sunday, 17 March 2013
Re: Choices behaviour
In article <532e0b195anetsurf-users-sub@aconet.nl>,
Frank de Bruijn <netsurf-users-sub@aconet.nl> wrote:
> In article <532df8decacvjazz@waitrose.com>,
> Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
> > The file I needed to alter was.....
> > !Fetch_NS.Resources.Defaults
> Only if you deleted the file <Choices$Write>.Fetch_NS.Settings.
> The Defaults file is only used (and copied as Settings to Fetch_NS's
> Choices directory) if a Settings file does not exist there already.
Thanks. I think I've found the right one now. I have Adjust 4.39 so the
settings file seemed to be here...
IDEFS::h-4.$.!Boot.Choices.Users.Single.Fetch_NS.Settings
I've changed that as well so fingers crossed.
Unfortunately, the Fetch_NS help file didn't specify too clearly where I
should look.
--
Chris
Frank de Bruijn <netsurf-users-sub@aconet.nl> wrote:
> In article <532df8decacvjazz@waitrose.com>,
> Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
> > The file I needed to alter was.....
> > !Fetch_NS.Resources.Defaults
> Only if you deleted the file <Choices$Write>.Fetch_NS.Settings.
> The Defaults file is only used (and copied as Settings to Fetch_NS's
> Choices directory) if a Settings file does not exist there already.
Thanks. I think I've found the right one now. I have Adjust 4.39 so the
settings file seemed to be here...
IDEFS::h-4.$.!Boot.Choices.Users.Single.Fetch_NS.Settings
I've changed that as well so fingers crossed.
Unfortunately, the Fetch_NS help file didn't specify too clearly where I
should look.
--
Chris
Re: Choices behaviour
In article <532df8decacvjazz@waitrose.com>,
Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
> The file I needed to alter was.....
> !Fetch_NS.Resources.Defaults
Only if you deleted the file <Choices$Write>.Fetch_NS.Settings.
The Defaults file is only used (and copied as Settings to Fetch_NS's
Choices directory) if a Settings file does not exist there already.
Regards,
Frank
Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
> The file I needed to alter was.....
> !Fetch_NS.Resources.Defaults
Only if you deleted the file <Choices$Write>.Fetch_NS.Settings.
The Defaults file is only used (and copied as Settings to Fetch_NS's
Choices directory) if a Settings file does not exist there already.
Regards,
Frank
Re: Choices behaviour
In article <532df87232cvjazz@waitrose.com>,
Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
> In article <mpro.mjtisl0bjuum801it.lists@stevefryatt.org.uk>,
> Steve Fryatt <lists@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:
> > On 17 Mar, Chris Newman wrote in message
> > <532df6c0f8cvjazz@waitrose.com>:
> > > I thought Netsurf kept its choices within !Boot. & indeed here I have..
> > >
> > > IDEFS::h-4.$.!Boot.Choices.Users.Single.WWW.NetSurf.Choices
> > >
> > > However, if from the iconbar I set - Content - Disable Java script
> > > unticked, every time I reload netsurfm the tick is back. I don't think
> > > this happened previously. Has something changed? Have I missed somthing?
> > Are you sure that you're not using a "jsoff" build? IIRC that forces the
> > config option to be set regardless of what is in the Choices file.
> Could well be. You've just triggered my brain in to action (a grim task).
> Looking at !Fetch_NS which I use, the default is to download the JSOFF
> version. I need to change the settings File. I'll explore that. Many thanks.
In reply to my reply..
The file I needed to alter was.....
!Fetch_NS.Resources.Defaults
I've done that now but can't test it until the next version of Netsurf is
available.
Thanks for your help.
--
Chris
Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
> In article <mpro.mjtisl0bjuum801it.lists@stevefryatt.org.uk>,
> Steve Fryatt <lists@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:
> > On 17 Mar, Chris Newman wrote in message
> > <532df6c0f8cvjazz@waitrose.com>:
> > > I thought Netsurf kept its choices within !Boot. & indeed here I have..
> > >
> > > IDEFS::h-4.$.!Boot.Choices.Users.Single.WWW.NetSurf.Choices
> > >
> > > However, if from the iconbar I set - Content - Disable Java script
> > > unticked, every time I reload netsurfm the tick is back. I don't think
> > > this happened previously. Has something changed? Have I missed somthing?
> > Are you sure that you're not using a "jsoff" build? IIRC that forces the
> > config option to be set regardless of what is in the Choices file.
> Could well be. You've just triggered my brain in to action (a grim task).
> Looking at !Fetch_NS which I use, the default is to download the JSOFF
> version. I need to change the settings File. I'll explore that. Many thanks.
In reply to my reply..
The file I needed to alter was.....
!Fetch_NS.Resources.Defaults
I've done that now but can't test it until the next version of Netsurf is
available.
Thanks for your help.
--
Chris
Re: Choices behaviour
In article <mpro.mjtisl0bjuum801it.lists@stevefryatt.org.uk>,
Steve Fryatt <lists@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:
> On 17 Mar, Chris Newman wrote in message
> <532df6c0f8cvjazz@waitrose.com>:
> > I thought Netsurf kept its choices within !Boot. & indeed here I have..
> >
> > IDEFS::h-4.$.!Boot.Choices.Users.Single.WWW.NetSurf.Choices
> >
> > However, if from the iconbar I set - Content - Disable Java script
> > unticked, every time I reload netsurfm the tick is back. I don't think
> > this happened previously. Has something changed? Have I missed somthing?
> Are you sure that you're not using a "jsoff" build? IIRC that forces the
> config option to be set regardless of what is in the Choices file.
Could well be. You've just triggered my brain in to action (a grim task).
Looking at !Fetch_NS which I use, the default is to download the JSOFF
version. I need to change the settings File. I'll explore that. Many thanks.
--
Chris
Steve Fryatt <lists@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:
> On 17 Mar, Chris Newman wrote in message
> <532df6c0f8cvjazz@waitrose.com>:
> > I thought Netsurf kept its choices within !Boot. & indeed here I have..
> >
> > IDEFS::h-4.$.!Boot.Choices.Users.Single.WWW.NetSurf.Choices
> >
> > However, if from the iconbar I set - Content - Disable Java script
> > unticked, every time I reload netsurfm the tick is back. I don't think
> > this happened previously. Has something changed? Have I missed somthing?
> Are you sure that you're not using a "jsoff" build? IIRC that forces the
> config option to be set regardless of what is in the Choices file.
Could well be. You've just triggered my brain in to action (a grim task).
Looking at !Fetch_NS which I use, the default is to download the JSOFF
version. I need to change the settings File. I'll explore that. Many thanks.
--
Chris
Re: Choices behaviour
Chris Newman wrote
> Hi,
> I thought Netsurf kept its choices within !Boot. & indeed here I have..
> IDEFS::h-4.$.!Boot.Choices.Users.Single.WWW.NetSurf.Choices
> However, if from the iconbar I set - Content - Disable Java script unticked,
> every time I reload netsurfm the tick is back. I don't think this happened
> previously. Has something changed? Have I missed somthing?
I can't reproduce this here (Iyonix 5.19) NS #971 works - and just
updated to #975 also preserves choices.
John
--
John Rickman - http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/lynx
> Hi,
> I thought Netsurf kept its choices within !Boot. & indeed here I have..
> IDEFS::h-4.$.!Boot.Choices.Users.Single.WWW.NetSurf.Choices
> However, if from the iconbar I set - Content - Disable Java script unticked,
> every time I reload netsurfm the tick is back. I don't think this happened
> previously. Has something changed? Have I missed somthing?
I can't reproduce this here (Iyonix 5.19) NS #971 works - and just
updated to #975 also preserves choices.
John
--
John Rickman - http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/lynx
Re: Choices behaviour
On 17 Mar, Chris Newman wrote in message
<532df6c0f8cvjazz@waitrose.com>:
> I thought Netsurf kept its choices within !Boot. & indeed here I have..
>
> IDEFS::h-4.$.!Boot.Choices.Users.Single.WWW.NetSurf.Choices
>
> However, if from the iconbar I set - Content - Disable Java script
> unticked, every time I reload netsurfm the tick is back. I don't think
> this happened previously. Has something changed? Have I missed somthing?
Are you sure that you're not using a "jsoff" build? IIRC that forces the
config option to be set regardless of what is in the Choices file.
--
Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England Wakefield Acorn & RISC OS Show
Saturday 20 April 2013
http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/ http://www.wakefieldshow.org.uk/
<532df6c0f8cvjazz@waitrose.com>:
> I thought Netsurf kept its choices within !Boot. & indeed here I have..
>
> IDEFS::h-4.$.!Boot.Choices.Users.Single.WWW.NetSurf.Choices
>
> However, if from the iconbar I set - Content - Disable Java script
> unticked, every time I reload netsurfm the tick is back. I don't think
> this happened previously. Has something changed? Have I missed somthing?
Are you sure that you're not using a "jsoff" build? IIRC that forces the
config option to be set regardless of what is in the Choices file.
--
Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England Wakefield Acorn & RISC OS Show
Saturday 20 April 2013
http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/ http://www.wakefieldshow.org.uk/
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