Monday, 22 July 2019

Re: The 3.9 Release / documentation for Media Queries etc

On 22/07/2019 11:00, Jim Nagel wrote:

> As I understand it from the bottom of my learning curve, Media Queries has
> to do with designing a website so that it automatically adapts according
> to whether the user is viewing it on a large or small screen.

Yes, exactly. It's a way to make conditionalise the application
of groups of CSS rules.

So you can give elements different CSS properties depending on, for
example, the width of the window.

Here's a trivial example. It will show "large", "medium", or
"small" depending on the width of the page.

http://test.netsurf-browser.org/html/mq.test.html

Note, in NetSurf we don't support dynamic changes to the computed
style yet, so as you change the width of the window, you'll need
to click reload to see the effect.

Cheers,

--
Michael Drake https://www.codethink.co.uk/

Re: The 3.9 Release / documentation for Media Queries etc

Vincent Sanders wrote on 21 Jul:
> NetSurf 3.9 features support for CSS Media Queries (level 4) and
> improvements to JavaScript handling.
> Also included are many bug fixes and improvements.


Good work: thanks to the whole Netsurf team.

I'd like to know more about Media Queries vis-a-vis Netsurf. Will the
documentation (link from Netsurf welcome page) be updated soon?

As I understand it from the bottom of my learning curve, Media Queries has
to do with designing a website so that it automatically adapts according
to whether the user is viewing it on a large or small screen.

In the site I have been working on, I have treated Netsurf as the default.
Realizing that Windows users habitually view a page the full size of their
wide monitor, and thus get unreadably wide lines of text, I inserted a
workaround to constrain page to 800px (about A5 width). This works fine
on A5 Android tablet too.

The problem of sensibly adapting the layout for a small screen on a
smartphone has so far eluded me, hence my interest in Media Queries.


--
Jim Nagel www.archivemag.co.uk

Sunday, 21 July 2019

Re: The 3.9 Release

On 21 Jul 2019 Steve Fryatt <lists@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:

> On 21 Jul, Peter Young wrote in message
> <df7238d757.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>:

>> On 21 Jul 2019 netsurf-dev-owner@netsurf-browser.org wrote:
>>
>>> You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your message has
>>> been automatically rejected. If you think that your messages are being
>>> rejected in error, contact the mailing list owner at
>>> netsurf-dev-owner@netsurf-browser.org.
>>
>> Why have I received this message, when the reply to the NetSurf list list
>> has been already posted on the list?
>>
>> Peter, a.k.a puzzled of Cheltenham.

> Because you posted to two mailing lists, one of which you don't have posting
> rights to.

Yes, I realised that belatedly.

> The answer to your original question is yes, by the way, because 3.10 Dev is
> the ongoing test build version after 3.9 was taken out and released. 3.9 is
> the stable release, while 3.10 is the potentially unstable versions arising
> from ongoing development.

Thanks for the explanation.

Best wishes,

Peter.

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Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England
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pnyoung@ormail.co.uk

Re: The 3.9 Release

On 21 Jul, Peter Young wrote in message
<df7238d757.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>:

> On 21 Jul 2019 netsurf-dev-owner@netsurf-browser.org wrote:
>
> > You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your message has
> > been automatically rejected. If you think that your messages are being
> > rejected in error, contact the mailing list owner at
> > netsurf-dev-owner@netsurf-browser.org.
>
> Why have I received this message, when the reply to the NetSurf list list
> has been already posted on the list?
>
> Peter, a.k.a puzzled of Cheltenham.

Because you posted to two mailing lists, one of which you don't have posting
rights to.

The answer to your original question is yes, by the way, because 3.10 Dev is
the ongoing test build version after 3.9 was taken out and released. 3.9 is
the stable release, while 3.10 is the potentially unstable versions arising
from ongoing development.

--
Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England

http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/

Re: The 3.9 Release

On 21 Jul 2019 Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> wrote:

> On 21 Jul 2019 netsurf-dev-owner@netsurf-browser.org wrote:

>> You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your message has
>> been automatically rejected. If you think that your messages are
>> being rejected in error, contact the mailing list owner at
>> netsurf-dev-owner@netsurf-browser.org.

> Why have I received this message, when the reply to the NetSurf list list
> has been already posted on the list?

> Peter, a.k.a puzzled of Cheltenham.

Ah, I now see. The curse of cross-posting :-)

Peter.

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Peter Young (zfc Hg) and family
Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
pnyoung@ormail.co.uk

Re: The 3.9 Release

On 21 Jul 2019 netsurf-dev-owner@netsurf-browser.org wrote:

> You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your message has
> been automatically rejected. If you think that your messages are
> being rejected in error, contact the mailing list owner at
> netsurf-dev-owner@netsurf-browser.org.

Why have I received this message, when the reply to the NetSurf list list
has been already posted on the list?

Peter, a.k.a puzzled of Cheltenham.

--
Peter Young (zfc Hg) and family
Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
pnyoung@ormail.co.uk

Re: The 3.9 Release

On 22/07/2019, Vincent Sanders <vince@netsurf-browser.org> wrote:
> I am pleased to announce the latest release of NetSurf is now available.
>
> NetSurf 3.9 features support for CSS Media Queries (level 4) and
> improvements to JavaScript handling.
>
> Also included are many bug fixes and improvements.
>
> We recommend all users upgrade to NetSurf 3.9.
>
> --
> Regards Vincent
> http://www.kyllikki.org/
>
>

Hello.

Will a port be built, for Ubuntu Linux?

Ubuntu Linux 18.04 does not include NetSurf in its repository, and,
the latest version for Ubuntu Linux 16.04, shows as being
3.2+dfsg-2.2build1, which I have installed.


--
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
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