In article <mpro.nshx8j00ishfi03q2.pittdj@pittdj.co.uk>,
David Pitt <pittdj@pittdj.co.uk> wrote:
[Snippy]
> This is a most welcome surprise and more than makes up for my
> disappointment caused by the failure of the free Windows 10 update to
> find its way onto my laptop.
Sorry for the aside chaps, but in case you are not aware, a satisfactory
way to do it for yourself.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows-10/media-creation-tool-install?ocid=ms_wol_win10
Takes you to the page of the Win Media creation tool.
This tool gives you the option to manually do the business, or download to
a memory stick, or as I've done, download the Win 7 Pro to Win 10 .iso,
burnt it to a DVD.
My Laptop, running W7 Home never got the invite, so when I get around to
it, I'll download the W7 Home to Win 10 .iso ready for action later.
BTW. It's roughly 3 Gigs worth of download, so best done during the wee
hours.
Apologies and back to normal service.
Dave
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Monday, 3 August 2015
Re: [Rpcemu] RPCEmu 0.8.12 Mac test build
Theo Markettos, on 2 Aug, wrote:
> I've done some fiddling about and got RPCEmu HEAD to build for Mac. I've
> put a test build at:
>
https://bitbucket.org/caliston/rpcemu-spoon-caliston/downloads/0.8.12-caliston-dev1.zip
This is a most welcome surprise and more than makes up for my disappointment
caused by the failure of the free Windows 10 update to find its way onto my
laptop.
The new version is up and running OS5.23 (05-July-2015) on Yosemite on a
non-retina iMac.
The specific difficulties here with 0.8.9 are :-
1. Some general instability in the form of freezes or aborts. As I
understand it earlier Windows versions suffered in the same way but 0.8.12
on Windows is now good, I believe.
2. Networking stiffs RPCEmu 0.8.9 though not necessarily instantly. I gave
up on that and transfers with the real world were via symlinks.
3. Vertical scrolling was very juddery and remains so for this new version.
[snip]
> * Mouse: the mouse works, but it requires a click to align the RISC OS
> pointer with the Mac one - before then they are misaligned.
The Windows version is the same.
[snip]
> There is a more general question of the future of RPCEmu for Mac: I've
> done some fiddling to build with frameworks from OS X 10.6 (see
> src/README-MacOSX for build instructions), but these are going to run out
> of road in the near future. There are ways forward, but would be good to
> know if Peter and Matthew have any plans graphics library wise that might
> affect it here.
El Capitan may be 'interesting'.
Thanks for this and the good news is that is still running, a good sign.
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> I've done some fiddling about and got RPCEmu HEAD to build for Mac. I've
> put a test build at:
>
https://bitbucket.org/caliston/rpcemu-spoon-caliston/downloads/0.8.12-caliston-dev1.zip
This is a most welcome surprise and more than makes up for my disappointment
caused by the failure of the free Windows 10 update to find its way onto my
laptop.
The new version is up and running OS5.23 (05-July-2015) on Yosemite on a
non-retina iMac.
The specific difficulties here with 0.8.9 are :-
1. Some general instability in the form of freezes or aborts. As I
understand it earlier Windows versions suffered in the same way but 0.8.12
on Windows is now good, I believe.
2. Networking stiffs RPCEmu 0.8.9 though not necessarily instantly. I gave
up on that and transfers with the real world were via symlinks.
3. Vertical scrolling was very juddery and remains so for this new version.
[snip]
> * Mouse: the mouse works, but it requires a click to align the RISC OS
> pointer with the Mac one - before then they are misaligned.
The Windows version is the same.
[snip]
> There is a more general question of the future of RPCEmu for Mac: I've
> done some fiddling to build with frameworks from OS X 10.6 (see
> src/README-MacOSX for build instructions), but these are going to run out
> of road in the near future. There are ways forward, but would be good to
> know if Peter and Matthew have any plans graphics library wise that might
> affect it here.
El Capitan may be 'interesting'.
Thanks for this and the good news is that is still running, a good sign.
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Sunday, 2 August 2015
Re: [Rpcemu] RPCEmu 0.8.12 Mac test build
On Sun, Aug 02, 2015 at 09:31:22PM +0100, Gerald Holdsworth wrote:
> On 2 Aug 2015, at 18:58, Theo Markettos <rpcemu@markettos.org.uk> wrote:
> > * HostFS
>
> Nope - this didn't work for me. Couldn't even RMREINIT the module.
I initially had trouble (HostFS couldn't start, complaining it couldn't
attach to the emulator, but HostFSFiler was active) because I was using my
existing install from 0.8.9: updating the HostFS,ffa file in there from the
binary supplied with 0.8.12 did the trick. I assume something has changed
in the emulator implementation since 0.8.9.
> This is under all four versions of RISC OS which I have - 3.70, 4.39, 5.22 and 6.20.
> Also, when changing folder in the Preferences (to point to the different OSs), it kept resetting the processor from SA-110 to ARM710.
Did that also happen with 0.8.9?
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> On 2 Aug 2015, at 18:58, Theo Markettos <rpcemu@markettos.org.uk> wrote:
> > * HostFS
>
> Nope - this didn't work for me. Couldn't even RMREINIT the module.
I initially had trouble (HostFS couldn't start, complaining it couldn't
attach to the emulator, but HostFSFiler was active) because I was using my
existing install from 0.8.9: updating the HostFS,ffa file in there from the
binary supplied with 0.8.12 did the trick. I assume something has changed
in the emulator implementation since 0.8.9.
> This is under all four versions of RISC OS which I have - 3.70, 4.39, 5.22 and 6.20.
> Also, when changing folder in the Preferences (to point to the different OSs), it kept resetting the processor from SA-110 to ARM710.
Did that also happen with 0.8.9?
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Re: [Rpcemu] RPCEmu 0.8.12 Mac test build
On 2 Aug 2015, at 18:58, Theo Markettos <rpcemu@markettos.org.uk> wrote:
> * RISC OS booting and running
Yep.
> * HostFS
Nope - this didn't work for me. Couldn't even RMREINIT the module.
> * Video, mode changes
Yep
> * Sound
Yep
This is under all four versions of RISC OS which I have - 3.70, 4.39, 5.22 and 6.20.
Also, when changing folder in the Preferences (to point to the different OSs), it kept resetting the processor from SA-110 to ARM710.
Cheers,
Gerald.
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> * RISC OS booting and running
Yep.
> * HostFS
Nope - this didn't work for me. Couldn't even RMREINIT the module.
> * Video, mode changes
Yep
> * Sound
Yep
This is under all four versions of RISC OS which I have - 3.70, 4.39, 5.22 and 6.20.
Also, when changing folder in the Preferences (to point to the different OSs), it kept resetting the processor from SA-110 to ARM710.
Cheers,
Gerald.
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Re: [Rpcemu] RPCEmu 0.8.12 Mac test build
On Aug 2, 2015, at 10:58 AM, Theo Markettos <rpcemu@markettos.org.uk> wrote:
>
> Known issues (please confirm if these affect you too):
All of the issues you report also occur in 0.8.9, and with RISC OS 3.71 as well.
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> Known issues (please confirm if these affect you too):
All of the issues you report also occur in 0.8.9, and with RISC OS 3.71 as well.
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Re: [Rpcemu] RPCEmu 0.8.12 Mac test build
On 2 Aug 2015, at 18:58, Theo Markettos <rpcemu@markettos.org.uk> wrote:
> I've done some fiddling about and got RPCEmu HEAD to build for Mac.
Nice one - thank you Theo.
>
> I would appreciate feedback for what works and what doesn't.
> This is based on the latest RPCEmu sources from Mercurial, so any
> work-in-progress there will apply here too.
Will do.
>
> I've been running it on Mavericks but I think it should run on Yosemite - I
> haven't had the opportunity to test it there as yet. I've been testing with
> RISC OS 5.20.
I use Mavericks as well, but use RISC OS 3.70, 4.39, 5.22 and 6.20 with my RPCEmu. I'll give them a shot, when I get the chance, and report back.
> * Mouse: the mouse works, but it requires a click to align the RISC OS
> pointer with the Mac one - before then they are misaligned.
This has been an issue, kind of, with 0.8.9 on my Mac. Not always, but sometimes. I think it depends on which RISC OS screen mode is being used.
Cheers,
Gerald.
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> I've done some fiddling about and got RPCEmu HEAD to build for Mac.
Nice one - thank you Theo.
>
> I would appreciate feedback for what works and what doesn't.
> This is based on the latest RPCEmu sources from Mercurial, so any
> work-in-progress there will apply here too.
Will do.
>
> I've been running it on Mavericks but I think it should run on Yosemite - I
> haven't had the opportunity to test it there as yet. I've been testing with
> RISC OS 5.20.
I use Mavericks as well, but use RISC OS 3.70, 4.39, 5.22 and 6.20 with my RPCEmu. I'll give them a shot, when I get the chance, and report back.
> * Mouse: the mouse works, but it requires a click to align the RISC OS
> pointer with the Mac one - before then they are misaligned.
This has been an issue, kind of, with 0.8.9 on my Mac. Not always, but sometimes. I think it depends on which RISC OS screen mode is being used.
Cheers,
Gerald.
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[Rpcemu] RPCEmu 0.8.12 Mac test build
I've done some fiddling about and got RPCEmu HEAD to build for Mac.
I've put a test build at:
https://bitbucket.org/caliston/rpcemu-spoon-caliston/downloads/0.8.12-caliston-dev1.zip
The source code is on bitbucket also. This mostly based on Francis Davey's
work, with me giving Xcode and Mercurial a kicking where necessary.
I would appreciate feedback for what works and what doesn't.
This is based on the latest RPCEmu sources from Mercurial, so any
work-in-progress there will apply here too.
I've been running it on Mavericks but I think it should run on Yosemite - I
haven't had the opportunity to test it there as yet. I've been testing with
RISC OS 5.20.
What seems to work:
* RISC OS booting and running
* HostFS
* Video, mode changes
* Sound
Known issues (please confirm if these affect you too):
* Display in Retina screen modes: The display is shown, but too small and
corrupted. I think this is fixable, but in the meantime you can switch to a
non-Retina mode (tools like SwitchResX will do it), or use an external
monitor.
* Networking: RISC OS seems to hang when networking is started. I haven't
been able to work out why.
* Mouse: the mouse works, but it requires a click to align the RISC OS
pointer with the Mac one - before then they are misaligned.
* CDROM: RISC OS can't seem to read the ISO file.
I haven't been keeping up with RPCEmu progress recently, so it would be
useful to know whether these glitches are shared with either the previous
0.8.9 for Mac, or the current HEAD sources. It would be helpful to know a
bit more about whether these are problems in my specific build, Mavericks,
RISC OS 5.20, or RPCEmu generally.
There is a more general question of the future of RPCEmu for Mac: I've done
some fiddling to build with frameworks from OS X 10.6 (see src/README-MacOSX
for build instructions), but these are going to run out of road in the near
future. There are ways forward, but would be good to know if Peter and
Matthew have any plans graphics library wise that might affect it here.
Theo
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I've put a test build at:
https://bitbucket.org/caliston/rpcemu-spoon-caliston/downloads/0.8.12-caliston-dev1.zip
The source code is on bitbucket also. This mostly based on Francis Davey's
work, with me giving Xcode and Mercurial a kicking where necessary.
I would appreciate feedback for what works and what doesn't.
This is based on the latest RPCEmu sources from Mercurial, so any
work-in-progress there will apply here too.
I've been running it on Mavericks but I think it should run on Yosemite - I
haven't had the opportunity to test it there as yet. I've been testing with
RISC OS 5.20.
What seems to work:
* RISC OS booting and running
* HostFS
* Video, mode changes
* Sound
Known issues (please confirm if these affect you too):
* Display in Retina screen modes: The display is shown, but too small and
corrupted. I think this is fixable, but in the meantime you can switch to a
non-Retina mode (tools like SwitchResX will do it), or use an external
monitor.
* Networking: RISC OS seems to hang when networking is started. I haven't
been able to work out why.
* Mouse: the mouse works, but it requires a click to align the RISC OS
pointer with the Mac one - before then they are misaligned.
* CDROM: RISC OS can't seem to read the ISO file.
I haven't been keeping up with RPCEmu progress recently, so it would be
useful to know whether these glitches are shared with either the previous
0.8.9 for Mac, or the current HEAD sources. It would be helpful to know a
bit more about whether these are problems in my specific build, Mavericks,
RISC OS 5.20, or RPCEmu generally.
There is a more general question of the future of RPCEmu for Mac: I've done
some fiddling to build with frameworks from OS X 10.6 (see src/README-MacOSX
for build instructions), but these are going to run out of road in the near
future. There are ways forward, but would be good to know if Peter and
Matthew have any plans graphics library wise that might affect it here.
Theo
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