Re: Possible to get it out of reverse video?

On 28 Jul 2022 as I do recall,
Mouse wrote:

> >> [I tried netsurf]. As I have, unfortunately, come to expect from
> >> almost everything, it defaulted to reverse video. [...]
>
> > [default CSS] To be honest I don't know that this would override the
> > colours set up in the page [...]
>
> I wouldn't expect default CSS to override the page's colours. That's
> what defaults are all about, after all.

I can't think of any other way of doing it in Netsurf (and I didn't test
that suggestion, so I don't even know if it would have worked
anyway....)


> (I wouldn't even _want_ to override the page's colours, except that
> most pages actively specify reverse-video colours. I don't understand
> why.)

So by 'reverse video' you mean DTP-style display, with dark text on a
white page? Yes, that is the default for everything other than
terminal-style screens (which I now understand is what you are trying to
emulate).

StrongED (bitmap display text editor) used to have a special 'inverse
video' light-on-dark colour option to emulate the old BBC Micro
programming display, but I can't even find that option in the latest
versions, and I don't know of any other application that offers it -
RISC OS has been using cream/white/grey backgrounds with lines drawn
over them as the default for all user interfaces since the desktop first
came in circa 1990, and it has never been terminal-based, so I'm afraid
applications originating in RISC OS simply don't take that type of
display into account. :-(


[snip]


> The "make it usable" part needs, of course, to have a "for me"
> qualifier attached; I had assumed that was implicitly understood here,
> as of course it should be for pretty much any user-usability issue. I
> suspect most people have become accustomed to having large areas of
> bright on their screens. Maybe they like eyestrain? [Only half
> sarcastic....]

I find that fine white lines against a dark background tend to dance
before my eyes - particularly obvious when graphics designers use this
style on printed pages (and even worse of course when they do it on a
*textured* background, which may look good on their monitors but is all
but unreadable in a colour magazine), but I just generated an HTML page
of Lorem ipsum using a white-on-black colour scheme, and it's pretty
hard to read in Netsurf. It probably depends on your OS/monitor set-up.

> Of course, it doesn't matter much what the defaults are, as long as
> it's easy to change them. It's the changing-them part that led me to
> write to the list.

Unfortunately I'm pretty sure Netsurf doesn't offer any mechanism to
force HTML pages to change their colour scheme. It doesn't offer all
that many customisations anyway (you can't even tell it not to load
images, so far as I'm aware). I think it was mainly written to be
small and fast, rather than highly flexible.

So there probably isn't any way of getting it to meet your needs.
(Though I'm not a developer and don't know what is actually possible!)

--
Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie ==

He who hesitates is last.
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