On 22/01/2019, Harriet Bazley <lists@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:
> On 21 Jan 2019 as I do recall,
> Bret Busby wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>
>> The gmail seems to be as usable as gmail is usable (it does not work
>> with firefox, for me - the way it is displayed in firefox, is
>> illegible).
>>
>
> Yes, it is - but can you enter your password to log in? (Better take a
> copy
> of the COokies file if you plan to experiment...)
>
> Google now appear to have wrapped GMail into the concept of their general
> 'Google Account', which I suspect is what is causing the problem.
>
> --
> Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie ==
>
> My opinions may have changed, but not the fact that I am right.
>
>
Okay.
With Netsurf having just crashed due to the Internet connection
breaking up, I have started a new session og gmail, and the login
process is as it has been for a while - account name - 1 screen, then
password input - second screen, and I logged in without any problem.
Then the browser crashed again, when the Internet connection broke
again, but, I managed to log in again, without any problem.
Now, I will try to send this message, and jope that the Internet
connection does not break again and cause the browser to crash again.
--
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
..............
"So once you do know what the question actually is,
you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
"The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
A Trilogy In Four Parts",
written by Douglas Adams,
published by Pan Books, 1992
....................................................
Wednesday, 30 January 2019
Tuesday, 22 January 2019
Re: Gmail In Netsurf 3.9
On 22 Jan 2019 as I do recall,
Cág wrote:
> Harriet Bazley wrote:
> > Thanks! The settings even seem to be accessible via Netsurf...
> > I'm a bit nervous as to how this works; does it download copies of all
> > incoming messages to a specified inbox? (I've only ever used POP
> > email.)
>
> With IMAP mail is stored on a server, and an MUA keeps the connection
> open while a user manages his mailbox. I.e., mail is not downloaded,
> and, depending on the capabilities of a mail client, an external program
> might be needed to save it locally.
That sounds like more or less what I was looking for, as I use GMail for
things like web page update notifications which I want to be able to look at
but not really to download...
Unfortunately I can't see any way to enable IMAP in my existing copy of
MPro 8, or to add an additional 'mailbox' accessed via IMAP while all the
existing mail is downloaded by AntiSpam using POP - a quick look at the
Internet suggests that you might have to configure it when originally
installing the Messenger suite by running !RemoteNB, or that our version
only has the Messenger Offline Database available.
--
Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie ==
Those who can't write, write manuals.
Cág wrote:
> Harriet Bazley wrote:
> > Thanks! The settings even seem to be accessible via Netsurf...
> > I'm a bit nervous as to how this works; does it download copies of all
> > incoming messages to a specified inbox? (I've only ever used POP
> > email.)
>
> With IMAP mail is stored on a server, and an MUA keeps the connection
> open while a user manages his mailbox. I.e., mail is not downloaded,
> and, depending on the capabilities of a mail client, an external program
> might be needed to save it locally.
That sounds like more or less what I was looking for, as I use GMail for
things like web page update notifications which I want to be able to look at
but not really to download...
Unfortunately I can't see any way to enable IMAP in my existing copy of
MPro 8, or to add an additional 'mailbox' accessed via IMAP while all the
existing mail is downloaded by AntiSpam using POP - a quick look at the
Internet suggests that you might have to configure it when originally
installing the Messenger suite by running !RemoteNB, or that our version
only has the Messenger Offline Database available.
--
Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie ==
Those who can't write, write manuals.
Re: Gmail In Netsurf 3.9
Harriet Bazley wrote:
> Thanks! The settings even seem to be accessible via Netsurf...
> I'm a bit nervous as to how this works; does it download copies of all
> incoming messages to a specified inbox? (I've only ever used POP
> email.)
With IMAP mail is stored on a server, and an MUA keeps the connection
open while a user manages his mailbox. I.e., mail is not downloaded,
and,
depending on the capabilities of a mail client, an external program
might
be needed to save it locally.
--
caóc
> Thanks! The settings even seem to be accessible via Netsurf...
> I'm a bit nervous as to how this works; does it download copies of all
> incoming messages to a specified inbox? (I've only ever used POP
> email.)
With IMAP mail is stored on a server, and an MUA keeps the connection
open while a user manages his mailbox. I.e., mail is not downloaded,
and,
depending on the capabilities of a mail client, an external program
might
be needed to save it locally.
--
caóc
Re: Gmail In Netsurf 3.9 / keyboard shortcut for Javascript
In article <bba05e7a57.jim@6.abbeypress.net>,
Jim Nagel <netsurf@abbeypress.co.uk> wrote:
> Justin Wierbonski wrote on 21 Sep:
> > ... is there a keyboard shortcut for turning off/on javascript?
> Something I've wished for (on this list and elsewhere) for ages! Good
> old Fresco, years ago, had a buttonbar item to switch its (primitive)
> Javascript on and off. I have tried, but failed, to use !Keystroke to
> set up such a key.
Keystroke is an app still use... If I can fathom how to do it...
I wonder if there's anyone left in the RISC OS arena who is expert on
Keystroke?
Dave
--
Dave Triffid
Jim Nagel <netsurf@abbeypress.co.uk> wrote:
> Justin Wierbonski wrote on 21 Sep:
> > ... is there a keyboard shortcut for turning off/on javascript?
> Something I've wished for (on this list and elsewhere) for ages! Good
> old Fresco, years ago, had a buttonbar item to switch its (primitive)
> Javascript on and off. I have tried, but failed, to use !Keystroke to
> set up such a key.
Keystroke is an app still use... If I can fathom how to do it...
I wonder if there's anyone left in the RISC OS arena who is expert on
Keystroke?
Dave
--
Dave Triffid
Re: Gmail In Netsurf 3.9
On 22/01/2019, Harriet Bazley <lists@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:
> On 21 Jan 2019 as I do recall,
> Bret Busby wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>
>> The gmail seems to be as usable as gmail is usable (it does not work
>> with firefox, for me - the way it is displayed in firefox, is
>> illegible).
>>
>
> Yes, it is - but can you enter your password to log in? (Better take a
> copy
> of the COokies file if you plan to experiment...)
>
> Google now appear to have wrapped GMail into the concept of their general
> 'Google Account', which I suspect is what is causing the problem.
>
> --
> Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie ==
>
> My opinions may have changed, but not the fact that I am right.
>
>
Here in Australia, it is better to avoid unnecessary bandwidth usage,
as telecommunications have been made completely unstable, by the feral
government.
So, logging out and trying to log back in, is precarious, whether or
not it works with gmail.
All attempts to access the Internet, are now precarious and unstable,
in Australia, due to the sabotage of telecommunications.
Even if logging out and logging back in to gmail, does work, it could
take several hours, if it succeeds, due to the intermittent an erratic
nature of telecommunications in Australia.
I have attached an example of the ongoing, persistent, instability
that the feral government inflicted on Australia. I not know whether
this mailing list allows attachments, so, we will find whether it gets
through....
--
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
..............
"So once you do know what the question actually is,
you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
"The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
A Trilogy In Four Parts",
written by Douglas Adams,
published by Pan Books, 1992
....................................................
> On 21 Jan 2019 as I do recall,
> Bret Busby wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>
>> The gmail seems to be as usable as gmail is usable (it does not work
>> with firefox, for me - the way it is displayed in firefox, is
>> illegible).
>>
>
> Yes, it is - but can you enter your password to log in? (Better take a
> copy
> of the COokies file if you plan to experiment...)
>
> Google now appear to have wrapped GMail into the concept of their general
> 'Google Account', which I suspect is what is causing the problem.
>
> --
> Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie ==
>
> My opinions may have changed, but not the fact that I am right.
>
>
Here in Australia, it is better to avoid unnecessary bandwidth usage,
as telecommunications have been made completely unstable, by the feral
government.
So, logging out and trying to log back in, is precarious, whether or
not it works with gmail.
All attempts to access the Internet, are now precarious and unstable,
in Australia, due to the sabotage of telecommunications.
Even if logging out and logging back in to gmail, does work, it could
take several hours, if it succeeds, due to the intermittent an erratic
nature of telecommunications in Australia.
I have attached an example of the ongoing, persistent, instability
that the feral government inflicted on Australia. I not know whether
this mailing list allows attachments, so, we will find whether it gets
through....
--
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
..............
"So once you do know what the question actually is,
you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
"The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
A Trilogy In Four Parts",
written by Douglas Adams,
published by Pan Books, 1992
....................................................
Re: Gmail In Netsurf 3.9 / keyboard shortcut for Javascript
Justin Wierbonski wrote on 21 Sep:
> ... is there a keyboard shortcut for turning off/on javascript?
Something I've wished for (on this list and elsewhere) for ages!
Good old Fresco, years ago, had a buttonbar item to switch its (primitive)
Javascript on and off.
I have tried, but failed, to use !Keystroke to set up such a key.
--
Jim Nagel www.archivemag.co.uk
> ... is there a keyboard shortcut for turning off/on javascript?
Something I've wished for (on this list and elsewhere) for ages!
Good old Fresco, years ago, had a buttonbar item to switch its (primitive)
Javascript on and off.
I have tried, but failed, to use !Keystroke to set up such a key.
--
Jim Nagel www.archivemag.co.uk
Monday, 21 January 2019
Re: Gmail In Netsurf 3.9
On 21 Jan 2019 Harriet Bazley <lists@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:
> On 21 Jan 2019 as I do recall,
> Bret Busby wrote:
> [snip]
>> The gmail seems to be as usable as gmail is usable (it does not work
>> with firefox, for me - the way it is displayed in firefox, is
>> illegible).
>>
> Yes, it is - but can you enter your password to log in? (Better take a copy
> of the COokies file if you plan to experiment...)
> Google now appear to have wrapped GMail into the concept of their general
> 'Google Account', which I suspect is what is causing the problem.
I have a Gmail account as a backup, and I can now easily access it using
MPro 8.01. There are full instructions that came with 8.00 as to how to
set this up, but you do need a non-RISC OS machine to set it up.
Thereafter RISC OS does it all.
HTH,
Best wishes,
Peter.
--
Peter Young (zfc Au) and family
Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
pnyoung@ormail.co.uk
> On 21 Jan 2019 as I do recall,
> Bret Busby wrote:
> [snip]
>> The gmail seems to be as usable as gmail is usable (it does not work
>> with firefox, for me - the way it is displayed in firefox, is
>> illegible).
>>
> Yes, it is - but can you enter your password to log in? (Better take a copy
> of the COokies file if you plan to experiment...)
> Google now appear to have wrapped GMail into the concept of their general
> 'Google Account', which I suspect is what is causing the problem.
I have a Gmail account as a backup, and I can now easily access it using
MPro 8.01. There are full instructions that came with 8.00 as to how to
set this up, but you do need a non-RISC OS machine to set it up.
Thereafter RISC OS does it all.
HTH,
Best wishes,
Peter.
--
Peter Young (zfc Au) and family
Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
pnyoung@ormail.co.uk
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