[netsurf-users] Re: Google search

In message <5bec81139cjohn@jaharrison.me.uk>
John Harrison <john@jaharrison.me.uk> wrote:

> In article <911372ec5b.phorefaux@a9home.lan>,
> Paul Stewart <dmarc-noreply@freelists.org> wrote:
>>> The URL of the search that worked was:

>>> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en-GB&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=fred&btnG=Goog
>>> le+Search&iflsig=ACkRmUkAAAAAZ5-R19mlrKh1xYmpEN0bFHEzGVRCegvD&gbv=1

>> When I try that URL I get the "Enable JavaScript to use search" page
>> from Google.

> What happens if you enable JS?

It does indeed work. However searching from google.co.uk does not. Just
generates a blank page.

However, rather interestingly, searching from google.com does work with JS
enabled.

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Paul Stewart Sent from A9home running RISC OS 4.42

[netsurf-users] Re: Google search

In article <911372ec5b.phorefaux@a9home.lan>,
Paul Stewart <dmarc-noreply@freelists.org> wrote:
> > The URL of the search that worked was:

> > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en-GB&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=fred&btnG=Goog
> > le+Search&iflsig=ACkRmUkAAAAAZ5-R19mlrKh1xYmpEN0bFHEzGVRCegvD&gbv=1

> When I try that URL I get the "Enable JavaScript to use search" page
> from Google.

What happens if you enable JS?

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John Harrison
Website http://jaharrison.me.uk
Using 4té2 and ARMX6, both running RISC OS

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[netsurf-users] Re: Google search

In message <5be8e99ef3john@jaharrison.me.uk>
John Harrison <john@jaharrison.me.uk> wrote:

> The URL of the search that worked was:

> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en-GB&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=fred&btnG=Goog
> le+Search&iflsig=ACkRmUkAAAAAZ5-R19mlrKh1xYmpEN0bFHEzGVRCegvD&gbv=1

When I try that URL I get the "Enable JavaScript to use search" page from
Google. Using NetSurf build 6786

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Paul Stewart Sent from A9home running RISC OS 4.42

[netsurf-users] Re: Google search

In message <2c3f1be95b.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>
Harriet Bazley <lists@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:
> On 2 Feb 2025 as I do recall,
> John Harrison wrote:
>> The URL of the search that worked was:
>>
>> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en-GB&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=fred&btnG=Goog
>> le+Search&iflsig=ACkRmUkAAAAAZ5-R19mlrKh1xYmpEN0bFHEzGVRCegvD&gbv=1


> NB neither search works here, even with JavaScript enabled - they just
> display a complete blank window followed by the "Our systems have
> detected unusual traffic from your computer network. This page checks to
> see if it's really you sending the requests, and not a robot" message.

The URL above works on all three machines:- ARMX6, Qube, and two Pi
machines, 4te and Qube.

I don't know what to make of it, but notice that the above URL is http,
not https.




--
John Rickman

[netsurf-users] Re: Google search

On 2 Feb 2025 as I do recall,
John Harrison wrote:

> The URL of the search that worked was:
>
> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en-GB&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=fred&btnG=Google+Search&iflsig=ACkRmUkAAAAAZ5-R19mlrKh1xYmpEN0bFHEzGVRCegvD&gbv=1
>
> and of the one that didn't was:
>
> https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=fred&btnG=Google+Search
>

NB neither search works here, even with JavaScript enabled - they just
display a complete blank window followed by the "Our systems have
detected unusual traffic from your computer network. This page checks to
see if it's really you sending the requests, and not a robot" message.

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Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie ==

Old Programmers never die. They just terminate and stay resident

[netsurf-users] Re: Google search

On 2 Feb 2025 as I do recall,
John Harrison wrote:

> In article <3f66d9e85b.John@rickman.argonet.co.uk>,
> John Rickman <dmarc-noreply@freelists.org> wrote:
> > ... Google search works with NetSurf on ARMX6, but not with ...
>
> How odd. I hadn't tried before but I just did. It asked me to turn on
> JS, and then the search worked. But with 4te2 I get nothing.
>
I think that may be a red herring; turning on JavaScript worked for me
on my ARMX6 for a while, and then I just got some kind of "we have
decided that you are a robot" error and it stopped working.
And Jean-Michel reported that he needed to keep wiping NetSurf's cookies
file before using Google search in order to avoid the same issue.

So it may well be completely unrelated to the OS or whether you are
using google.com or google.co.uk, and simply a random check that they
run every so many searches before flagging you up as a 'bad actor'....

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Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie ==

Abstinence makes the heart grow fonder.

[netsurf-users] Re: Google search

In article <3f66d9e85b.John@rickman.argonet.co.uk>,
John Rickman <dmarc-noreply@freelists.org> wrote:
> ... Google search works with NetSurf on ARMX6, but not with ...

How odd. I hadn't tried before but I just did. It asked me to turn on
JS, and then the search worked. But with 4te2 I get nothing.

Then (on 4te2) instead of using the Google search in NetSurf welcome page
I went to google.com and searched from there. That also worked. So the
fact that the search is initiated from the local Netsurf page rather than
from Google's website seems significant.

The URL of the search that worked was:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en-GB&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=fred&btnG=Google+Search&iflsig=ACkRmUkAAAAAZ5-R19mlrKh1xYmpEN0bFHEzGVRCegvD&gbv=1

and of the one that didn't was:

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=fred&btnG=Google+Search

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John Harrison
Website http://jaharrison.me.uk
Using 4té2 and ARMX6, both running RISC OS

There is no such thing as a failed experiment, only an experiment with an unexpected outcome. (Richard Buckminster-Fuller)