In article <3f66d9e85b.John@rickman.argonet.co.uk>,
John Rickman <dmarc-noreply@freelists.org> wrote:
> ... Google search works with NetSurf on ARMX6, but not with ...
How odd. I hadn't tried before but I just did. It asked me to turn on
JS, and then the search worked. But with 4te2 I get nothing.
Then (on 4te2) instead of using the Google search in NetSurf welcome page
I went to google.com and searched from there. That also worked. So the
fact that the search is initiated from the local Netsurf page rather than
from Google's website seems significant.
The URL of the search that worked was:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en-GB&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=fred&btnG=Google+Search&iflsig=ACkRmUkAAAAAZ5-R19mlrKh1xYmpEN0bFHEzGVRCegvD&gbv=1
and of the one that didn't was:
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=fred&btnG=Google+Search
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John Harrison
Website http://jaharrison.me.uk
Using 4té2 and ARMX6, both running RISC OS
There is no such thing as a failed experiment, only an experiment with an unexpected outcome. (Richard Buckminster-Fuller)
Sunday, 2 February 2025
[netsurf-users] Re: Google search
In message <df4f70e85b.phorefaux@a9home.lan>
Paul Stewart <dmarc-noreply@freelists.org> wrote:
> I've now switched my NetSurf home page to Yahoo:
> https://uk.yahoo.com/?p=uk
> Generally loads okay with NetSurf and the search also works.
What is puzzling is that Google search works with NetSurf on ARMX6, but
not with my Qube CM4. The NetSurf version is the same on both machines. It
might ne accounted for by different levels of OSARMX6 is on 5.31 and Qube
is using 5.29.
The Qube produces a blank page for NetSurf Google searches of the
internet. If I use it to search my own website it puts up an are you a
robot page.
Curious as obviously both machines use the same internet access ip
address.
John
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John Rickman
Paul Stewart <dmarc-noreply@freelists.org> wrote:
> I've now switched my NetSurf home page to Yahoo:
> https://uk.yahoo.com/?p=uk
> Generally loads okay with NetSurf and the search also works.
What is puzzling is that Google search works with NetSurf on ARMX6, but
not with my Qube CM4. The NetSurf version is the same on both machines. It
might ne accounted for by different levels of OSARMX6 is on 5.31 and Qube
is using 5.29.
The Qube produces a blank page for NetSurf Google searches of the
internet. If I use it to search my own website it puts up an are you a
robot page.
Curious as obviously both machines use the same internet access ip
address.
John
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John Rickman
[netsurf-users] Re: Google search
In article <df4f70e85b.phorefaux@a9home.lan>,
Paul Stewart <dmarc-noreply@freelists.org> wrote:
> 've now switched my NetSurf home page to Yahoo:
> https://uk.yahoo.com/?p=uk
> Generally loads okay with NetSurf and the search also works.
Only in part. If you do a search and then select Images it goes blank,
and the options get scrambled so you can't easily get back. For some odd
reason that doesn't happen if I select Videos, which seems to work OK
(though obviously I can't open the videos, so not much use),
--
John Harrison
Website http://jaharrison.me.uk
Using 4té2 and ARMX6, both running RISC OS
Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change those that I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. (Reinhold Niehbuhr)
Paul Stewart <dmarc-noreply@freelists.org> wrote:
> 've now switched my NetSurf home page to Yahoo:
> https://uk.yahoo.com/?p=uk
> Generally loads okay with NetSurf and the search also works.
Only in part. If you do a search and then select Images it goes blank,
and the options get scrambled so you can't easily get back. For some odd
reason that doesn't happen if I select Videos, which seems to work OK
(though obviously I can't open the videos, so not much use),
--
John Harrison
Website http://jaharrison.me.uk
Using 4té2 and ARMX6, both running RISC OS
Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change those that I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. (Reinhold Niehbuhr)
Saturday, 1 February 2025
[netsurf-users] Re: Google search
In message <109836e25b.ricp@user.minijem.plus.com>
Richard Porter <ricp@minijem.plus.com> wrote:
> On 19 Jan 2025 Harriet Bazley wrote:
>> "The Google spokesperson told TechCrunch that, on average, ?fewer than
>> .1%? of searches on Google are done by people who disable JavaScript.
>> That?s no small number at Google scale. Google processes around 8.5
>> billion searches per day, so one can assume that millions of people
>> performing searches through Google aren?t using JavaScript."
> Well .1% of 8.5 billion is still a big figure.
> In any case I do have javascript turned on and still get blocked.
I've now switched my NetSurf home page to Yahoo:
https://uk.yahoo.com/?p=uk
Generally loads okay with NetSurf and the search also works.
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Paul Stewart Sent from A9home running RISC OS 4.42
Richard Porter <ricp@minijem.plus.com> wrote:
> On 19 Jan 2025 Harriet Bazley wrote:
>> "The Google spokesperson told TechCrunch that, on average, ?fewer than
>> .1%? of searches on Google are done by people who disable JavaScript.
>> That?s no small number at Google scale. Google processes around 8.5
>> billion searches per day, so one can assume that millions of people
>> performing searches through Google aren?t using JavaScript."
> Well .1% of 8.5 billion is still a big figure.
> In any case I do have javascript turned on and still get blocked.
I've now switched my NetSurf home page to Yahoo:
https://uk.yahoo.com/?p=uk
Generally loads okay with NetSurf and the search also works.
--
Paul Stewart Sent from A9home running RISC OS 4.42
Monday, 20 January 2025
[netsurf-users] Re: Google search
On 19 Jan 2025 Harriet Bazley wrote:
> "The Google spokesperson told TechCrunch that, on average, ?fewer than
> .1%? of searches on Google are done by people who disable JavaScript.
> That?s no small number at Google scale. Google processes around 8.5
> billion searches per day, so one can assume that millions of people
> performing searches through Google aren?t using JavaScript."
Well .1% of 8.5 billion is still a big figure.
In any case I do have javascript turned on and still get blocked.
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Richard Porter http://www.minijem.plus.com
+44 7527 165769 mailto:ricp@minijem.plus.com
> "The Google spokesperson told TechCrunch that, on average, ?fewer than
> .1%? of searches on Google are done by people who disable JavaScript.
> That?s no small number at Google scale. Google processes around 8.5
> billion searches per day, so one can assume that millions of people
> performing searches through Google aren?t using JavaScript."
Well .1% of 8.5 billion is still a big figure.
In any case I do have javascript turned on and still get blocked.
--
Richard Porter http://www.minijem.plus.com
+44 7527 165769 mailto:ricp@minijem.plus.com
Sunday, 19 January 2025
[netsurf-users] Re: Google search
On 19 Jan 2025 as I do recall,
Harriet Bazley wrote:
> Google.co.uk appears to have permanently disabled search results without
> JavaScript, after intermittent blocks: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42719865
>
https://techcrunch.com/2025/01/17/google-begins-requiring-javascript-for-google-search/
"The Google spokesperson told TechCrunch that, on average, �fewer than
.1%� of searches on Google are done by people who disable JavaScript.
That�s no small number at Google scale. Google processes around 8.5
billion searches per day, so one can assume that millions of people
performing searches through Google aren�t using JavaScript."
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H. Bazley
Wimbledon SW19 020 3581 4684
Harriet Bazley wrote:
> Google.co.uk appears to have permanently disabled search results without
> JavaScript, after intermittent blocks: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42719865
>
https://techcrunch.com/2025/01/17/google-begins-requiring-javascript-for-google-search/
"The Google spokesperson told TechCrunch that, on average, �fewer than
.1%� of searches on Google are done by people who disable JavaScript.
That�s no small number at Google scale. Google processes around 8.5
billion searches per day, so one can assume that millions of people
performing searches through Google aren�t using JavaScript."
--
H. Bazley
Wimbledon SW19 020 3581 4684
[netsurf-users] Google search
Google.co.uk appears to have permanently disabled search results without
JavaScript, after intermittent blocks: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42719865
They don't currently appear to be doing anything than testing whether JS
is enabled in the browser, rather than actually using it to manipulate
the results display, because simply switching JS on in Netsurf produces
the same listings as before (whereas it has no effect on most 'requires
JavaScript' sites beyond slowing down the rendering of the page).
DuckDuckGo displays a completely blank page with nothing in it but a
text icon, which appears to work for searching with JS both on and off,
but is not reassuring....
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Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie ==
Down with categorical imperatives!
JavaScript, after intermittent blocks: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42719865
They don't currently appear to be doing anything than testing whether JS
is enabled in the browser, rather than actually using it to manipulate
the results display, because simply switching JS on in Netsurf produces
the same listings as before (whereas it has no effect on most 'requires
JavaScript' sites beyond slowing down the rendering of the page).
DuckDuckGo displays a completely blank page with nothing in it but a
text icon, which appears to work for searching with JS both on and off,
but is not reassuring....
--
Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie ==
Down with categorical imperatives!
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