Hi George,
> > I'd have guessed it's something HostFS hasn't implemented and
> > perhaps a log file from rpcemu would help show the operation.
>
> If you would kindly tell me how to capture/access said log file, I
> will happily oblige.
From a look at the source it seems hostfs prints info to stderr but only
in a `debug' build produced by --enable-debug to ./configure. Should
debug downloads be provided so users can help give more feedback without
having to build from source?
Alternatively, is there something like strace for RISC OS these days
that would observe Photodesk's SWIs, including those triggering the
complaint?
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Re: [Rpcemu] RISC OS 5.17 benchmarked against 4.02
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Ralph Corderoy <ralph@inputplus.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>> > > > ... any attempt to run !Photodesk from HostFS brings up the
>> > > > error message 'Filing system does not support this operation'.
>
> I'd have guessed it's something HostFS hasn't implemented and perhaps a
> log file from rpcemu would help show the operation.
If you would kindly tell me how to capture/access said log file, I
will happily oblige.
> If that is the
> case, it may not be much work to implement and a better fix rather than
> change Photodesk and other apps that do similar.
Indeed. And thanks for the suggestion above!
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Ralph Corderoy <ralph@inputplus.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>> > > > ... any attempt to run !Photodesk from HostFS brings up the
>> > > > error message 'Filing system does not support this operation'.
>
> I'd have guessed it's something HostFS hasn't implemented and perhaps a
> log file from rpcemu would help show the operation.
If you would kindly tell me how to capture/access said log file, I
will happily oblige.
> If that is the
> case, it may not be much work to implement and a better fix rather than
> change Photodesk and other apps that do similar.
Indeed. And thanks for the suggestion above!
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Re: [Rpcemu] RISC OS 5.17 benchmarked against 4.02
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Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 24 Oct 2012, george greenfield <george.greenfield@tiscali.co.uk>
> wrote:
>> In message <8fe3b8e352.old_coaster@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>
>> Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> > On 24 Oct 2012, george greenfield <george.greenfield@tiscali.co.uk>
>> > wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>> > > ... any attempt to run !Photodesk from HostFS brings up the error
>> > > message 'Filing system does not support this operation'.
[snip]
>
> Could the problem be related to Windows' file extensions? When you look
> at the Photodesk program files, in HostFS, from the RPCEmu filer, are
> they all correctly named, and filetyped?
If I install !Photodesk 3.09 in 5.17's HostFS (which it will do, it
just produces the error message the moment you try to actually use
it), and Shift-Select the application in that directory, the listed
components are /identical/ in order, size and type to the
corresponding installation on HD4 of my 4.02 setup. So I don't think
that's the problem.
I did post a query on the RPCEmu section of the ROOL Forum a while ago
http://www.riscosopen.org/forum/forums/10/topics/1232?page=1 but
despite a number of 'views', there has been no response so far...
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Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 24 Oct 2012, george greenfield <george.greenfield@tiscali.co.uk>
> wrote:
>> In message <8fe3b8e352.old_coaster@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>
>> Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> > On 24 Oct 2012, george greenfield <george.greenfield@tiscali.co.uk>
>> > wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>> > > ... any attempt to run !Photodesk from HostFS brings up the error
>> > > message 'Filing system does not support this operation'.
[snip]
>
> Could the problem be related to Windows' file extensions? When you look
> at the Photodesk program files, in HostFS, from the RPCEmu filer, are
> they all correctly named, and filetyped?
If I install !Photodesk 3.09 in 5.17's HostFS (which it will do, it
just produces the error message the moment you try to actually use
it), and Shift-Select the application in that directory, the listed
components are /identical/ in order, size and type to the
corresponding installation on HD4 of my 4.02 setup. So I don't think
that's the problem.
I did post a query on the RPCEmu section of the ROOL Forum a while ago
http://www.riscosopen.org/forum/forums/10/topics/1232?page=1 but
despite a number of 'views', there has been no response so far...
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Re: [Rpcemu] RISC OS 5.17 benchmarked against 4.02
Hi,
> > > > ... any attempt to run !Photodesk from HostFS brings up the
> > > > error message 'Filing system does not support this operation'.
I'd have guessed it's something HostFS hasn't implemented and perhaps a
log file from rpcemu would help show the operation. If that is the
case, it may not be much work to implement and a better fix rather than
change Photodesk and other apps that do similar.
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> > > > ... any attempt to run !Photodesk from HostFS brings up the
> > > > error message 'Filing system does not support this operation'.
I'd have guessed it's something HostFS hasn't implemented and perhaps a
log file from rpcemu would help show the operation. If that is the
case, it may not be much work to implement and a better fix rather than
change Photodesk and other apps that do similar.
Cheers, Ralph.
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Re: [Rpcemu] RISC OS 5.17 benchmarked against 4.02
On 24 Oct 2012, george greenfield <george.greenfield@tiscali.co.uk>
wrote:
> In message <8fe3b8e352.old_coaster@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>
> Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > On 24 Oct 2012, george greenfield <george.greenfield@tiscali.co.uk>
> > wrote:
[snip]
> > > ... any attempt to run !Photodesk from HostFS brings up the error
> > > message 'Filing system does not support this operation'.
> >
> > Sounds like a bug. Have you reported it to the developers?
>
> I told CJE Micros when the problem first occurred early this year - I
> believe they are in contact with the developer. I have v3.09 and v3.10
> and either works fine from 4.02's HD4, so I don't think the apps
> themselves are corrupt.
Could the problem be related to Windows' file extensions? When you look
at the Photodesk program files, in HostFS, from the RPCEmu filer, are
they all correctly named, and filetyped?
Tony
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wrote:
> In message <8fe3b8e352.old_coaster@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>
> Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > On 24 Oct 2012, george greenfield <george.greenfield@tiscali.co.uk>
> > wrote:
[snip]
> > > ... any attempt to run !Photodesk from HostFS brings up the error
> > > message 'Filing system does not support this operation'.
> >
> > Sounds like a bug. Have you reported it to the developers?
>
> I told CJE Micros when the problem first occurred early this year - I
> believe they are in contact with the developer. I have v3.09 and v3.10
> and either works fine from 4.02's HD4, so I don't think the apps
> themselves are corrupt.
Could the problem be related to Windows' file extensions? When you look
at the Photodesk program files, in HostFS, from the RPCEmu filer, are
they all correctly named, and filetyped?
Tony
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Re: [Rpcemu] RISC OS 5.17 benchmarked against 4.02
In message <8fe3b8e352.old_coaster@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>
Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 24 Oct 2012, george greenfield <george.greenfield@tiscali.co.uk>
> wrote:
>> In message <6d72a5e352.old_coaster@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>
>> Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>> > I know nothing about Photodesk, but why does it need HardDisc4? Is
>> > that path 'hard-wired' into the application?
>>
>> Possibly (I don't know anything about the programme's internal
>> workings): what I do know is that any attempt to run !Photodesk from
>> HostFS brings up the error message 'Filing system does not support
>> this operation'.
>
> Sounds like a bug. Have you reported it to the developers?
I told CJE Micros when the problem first occurred early this year - I
believe they are in contact with the developer. I have v3.09 and v3.10
and either works fine from 4.02's HD4, so I don't think the apps
themselves are corrupt.
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Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 24 Oct 2012, george greenfield <george.greenfield@tiscali.co.uk>
> wrote:
>> In message <6d72a5e352.old_coaster@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>
>> Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>> > I know nothing about Photodesk, but why does it need HardDisc4? Is
>> > that path 'hard-wired' into the application?
>>
>> Possibly (I don't know anything about the programme's internal
>> workings): what I do know is that any attempt to run !Photodesk from
>> HostFS brings up the error message 'Filing system does not support
>> this operation'.
>
> Sounds like a bug. Have you reported it to the developers?
I told CJE Micros when the problem first occurred early this year - I
believe they are in contact with the developer. I have v3.09 and v3.10
and either works fine from 4.02's HD4, so I don't think the apps
themselves are corrupt.
George
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Re: [Rpcemu] RISC OS 5.17 benchmarked against 4.02
On 24 Oct 2012, george greenfield <george.greenfield@tiscali.co.uk>
wrote:
> In message <6d72a5e352.old_coaster@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>
> Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
[snip]
> > I know nothing about Photodesk, but why does it need HardDisc4? Is
> > that path 'hard-wired' into the application?
>
> Possibly (I don't know anything about the programme's internal
> workings): what I do know is that any attempt to run !Photodesk from
> HostFS brings up the error message 'Filing system does not support
> this operation'.
Sounds like a bug. Have you reported it to the developers?
Tony
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wrote:
> In message <6d72a5e352.old_coaster@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>
> Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
[snip]
> > I know nothing about Photodesk, but why does it need HardDisc4? Is
> > that path 'hard-wired' into the application?
>
> Possibly (I don't know anything about the programme's internal
> workings): what I do know is that any attempt to run !Photodesk from
> HostFS brings up the error message 'Filing system does not support
> this operation'.
Sounds like a bug. Have you reported it to the developers?
Tony
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