On 13 Sep 2022 as I do recall,
Harriet Bazley wrote:
> I've been unable to access the https://ci.netsurf-browser.org/ site
> since this morning - it just times out.
>
> I can't access my bookmarks for the Mantis bug tracker or the Netsurf
> mailing list archives either, although they are nominally at different
> addresses (dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.netsurf.user and
> bugs.netsurf-browser.org) - but may redirect to the same 'home' site?
>
Seems to be back up now. :-)
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Saturday, 17 September 2022
Thursday, 15 September 2022
position:fixed works only as position:absolute
Hi NetSurf users and developers!
I'm use a last NS build (from git) on Linux Mint 20.3 x64.
If I try to use css property position:fixed; it position element
correctly on page, but it scrolls with content, as if it is a
display:absolute;
Maybe this can be easy fixed?
Thanks!
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I'm use a last NS build (from git) on Linux Mint 20.3 x64.
If I try to use css property position:fixed; it position element
correctly on page, but it scrolls with content, as if it is a
display:absolute;
Maybe this can be easy fixed?
Thanks!
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Wednesday, 14 September 2022
Re: ci.netsurf-browser.org down?
> Loyalty binds me.
> Apparently the personal motto of Richard III
> It's a personal affirmation on several levels, and a historical
> allusion....
Thank you Dave and Harriet. I always assumed that it was a pun or a joke,
but now I know better.
Paul
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> Apparently the personal motto of Richard III
> It's a personal affirmation on several levels, and a historical
> allusion....
Thank you Dave and Harriet. I always assumed that it was a pun or a joke,
but now I know better.
Paul
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Tuesday, 13 September 2022
Re: ci.netsurf-browser.org down?
On 13 Sep 2022 as I do recall,
Paul Sprangers wrote:
> PS @Harriet: can you explain to a non-native speaker what "Loyaulte me
> lie" means? I'm puzzled since a long long time.
>
Probably because it's not English; it's Norman French, like "Honi soit
qui mal y pense" (the motto of the Order of the Garter).
It's a personal affirmation on several levels, and a historical
allusion....
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Paul Sprangers wrote:
> PS @Harriet: can you explain to a non-native speaker what "Loyaulte me
> lie" means? I'm puzzled since a long long time.
>
Probably because it's not English; it's Norman French, like "Honi soit
qui mal y pense" (the motto of the Order of the Garter).
It's a personal affirmation on several levels, and a historical
allusion....
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Re: ci.netsurf-browser.org down?
In article <5a27694b84Paul@sprie.nl>,
Paul Sprangers <Paul@sprie.nl> wrote:
[Snippy]
> what "Loyaulte me lie" means?
The Google thing shows...
Loyalty binds me.
Apparently the personal motto of Richard III
D.
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Paul Sprangers <Paul@sprie.nl> wrote:
[Snippy]
> what "Loyaulte me lie" means?
The Google thing shows...
Loyalty binds me.
Apparently the personal motto of Richard III
D.
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Re: ci.netsurf-browser.org down?
On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 08:14:51PM +0100, David Higton wrote:
> I was rather surprised to see that netsurf-browser.org and
> ci.netsurf-browser.org resolve to completely different IPv4 addresses,
> but the latter is unreachable to ping4.
The former is hosted by me and Daniel at Pepperfish (along with email
and mailing lists). The CI and autobuilder is hosted by Vince in his
garage and should not really be considered as an essential service. I'm
sure it'll be back soon.
B.
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> I was rather surprised to see that netsurf-browser.org and
> ci.netsurf-browser.org resolve to completely different IPv4 addresses,
> but the latter is unreachable to ping4.
The former is hosted by me and Daniel at Pepperfish (along with email
and mailing lists). The CI and autobuilder is hosted by Vince in his
garage and should not really be considered as an essential service. I'm
sure it'll be back soon.
B.
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Re: ci.netsurf-browser.org down?
In message <177567275a.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>
Harriet Bazley <lists@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:
> I've been unable to access the https://ci.netsurf-browser.org/ site since
> this morning - it just times out.
>
> I can't access my bookmarks for the Mantis bug tracker or the Netsurf
> mailing list archives either, although they are nominally at different
> addresses (dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.netsurf.user and
> bugs.netsurf-browser.org) - but may redirect to the same 'home' site?
It's been down since yesterday at least.
I was rather surprised to see that netsurf-browser.org and
ci.netsurf-browser.org resolve to completely different IPv4 addresses,
but the latter is unreachable to ping4.
David
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Harriet Bazley <lists@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:
> I've been unable to access the https://ci.netsurf-browser.org/ site since
> this morning - it just times out.
>
> I can't access my bookmarks for the Mantis bug tracker or the Netsurf
> mailing list archives either, although they are nominally at different
> addresses (dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.netsurf.user and
> bugs.netsurf-browser.org) - but may redirect to the same 'home' site?
It's been down since yesterday at least.
I was rather surprised to see that netsurf-browser.org and
ci.netsurf-browser.org resolve to completely different IPv4 addresses,
but the latter is unreachable to ping4.
David
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Re: ci.netsurf-browser.org down?
In article <177567275a.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>,
Harriet Bazley <lists@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:
> I've been unable to access the https://ci.netsurf-browser.org/ site
> since this morning - it just times out.
Same here, whole day.
I think we just have to be patient.
PS @Harriet: can you explain to a non-native speaker what "Loyaulte me
lie" means? I'm puzzled since a long long time.
Paul
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Harriet Bazley <lists@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:
> I've been unable to access the https://ci.netsurf-browser.org/ site
> since this morning - it just times out.
Same here, whole day.
I think we just have to be patient.
PS @Harriet: can you explain to a non-native speaker what "Loyaulte me
lie" means? I'm puzzled since a long long time.
Paul
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ci.netsurf-browser.org down?
I've been unable to access the https://ci.netsurf-browser.org/ site
since this morning - it just times out.
I can't access my bookmarks for the Mantis bug tracker or the Netsurf
mailing list archives either, although they are nominally at different
addresses (dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.netsurf.user and
bugs.netsurf-browser.org) - but may redirect to the same 'home' site?
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since this morning - it just times out.
I can't access my bookmarks for the Mantis bug tracker or the Netsurf
mailing list archives either, although they are nominally at different
addresses (dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.netsurf.user and
bugs.netsurf-browser.org) - but may redirect to the same 'home' site?
--
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The purpose of rules is to make you think before you break them.
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Thursday, 1 September 2022
Re: Performance Benchmarks?
On 01/09/2022 13:10, John-Mark Bell wrote:
> On 01/09/2022 00:56, Kristian Van Tassell wrote:
>> If not, does anyone have any gut feelings as to whether newer versions
>> are faster?
>
> I doubt stylesheet parsing is significantly faster than it used to be.
> There have, however, been many improvements to the performance of style
> selection in the last 10 years. You can find discussion of one of them
> here:
> https://listmaster.pepperfish.net/hyperkitty/list/netsurf-dev@netsurf-browser.org/thread/TC4DVXUE637ZZLLL5UNYY6HO5MACJGTV/
The other big computed style selection optimisations were:
1. Avoiding selection altogether when we can detect that
it would result in the same computed style as a previous
element.
2. Up-front presentational hints.
Also, computed styles are now transparently interned and
ref counted now, so elements will share the same computed
styles whenever possible, reducing memory usage.
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> On 01/09/2022 00:56, Kristian Van Tassell wrote:
>> If not, does anyone have any gut feelings as to whether newer versions
>> are faster?
>
> I doubt stylesheet parsing is significantly faster than it used to be.
> There have, however, been many improvements to the performance of style
> selection in the last 10 years. You can find discussion of one of them
> here:
> https://listmaster.pepperfish.net/hyperkitty/list/netsurf-dev@netsurf-browser.org/thread/TC4DVXUE637ZZLLL5UNYY6HO5MACJGTV/
The other big computed style selection optimisations were:
1. Avoiding selection altogether when we can detect that
it would result in the same computed style as a previous
element.
2. Up-front presentational hints.
Also, computed styles are now transparently interned and
ref counted now, so elements will share the same computed
styles whenever possible, reducing memory usage.
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Re: Performance Benchmarks?
On 01/09/2022 00:56, Kristian Van Tassell wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I'm providing some maintenance on some software that uses libcss as a
> dependency, however a few versions of our software uses fairly old
> versions (0.1.2).
Yeah, that is "fairly old" -- it was released in 2012!
> What I'm wondering is, are there any performance benchmarks in place
> that would provide analytics as to whether version 0.1.2 is
> significantly less performant than 0.9.1?
I don't believe there is anything formal, no.
> If not, does anyone have any gut feelings as to whether newer versions
> are faster?
I doubt stylesheet parsing is significantly faster than it used to be.
There have, however, been many improvements to the performance of style
selection in the last 10 years. You can find discussion of one of them
here:
https://listmaster.pepperfish.net/hyperkitty/list/netsurf-dev@netsurf-browser.org/thread/TC4DVXUE637ZZLLL5UNYY6HO5MACJGTV/
John-Mark.
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> Hello all,
>
> I'm providing some maintenance on some software that uses libcss as a
> dependency, however a few versions of our software uses fairly old
> versions (0.1.2).
Yeah, that is "fairly old" -- it was released in 2012!
> What I'm wondering is, are there any performance benchmarks in place
> that would provide analytics as to whether version 0.1.2 is
> significantly less performant than 0.9.1?
I don't believe there is anything formal, no.
> If not, does anyone have any gut feelings as to whether newer versions
> are faster?
I doubt stylesheet parsing is significantly faster than it used to be.
There have, however, been many improvements to the performance of style
selection in the last 10 years. You can find discussion of one of them
here:
https://listmaster.pepperfish.net/hyperkitty/list/netsurf-dev@netsurf-browser.org/thread/TC4DVXUE637ZZLLL5UNYY6HO5MACJGTV/
John-Mark.
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