Re: history and hotlist not saved; CSS site

In message <5ea82c6b-73ca-6728-a118-e7111d09429f@codethink.co.uk>
Michael Drake <michael.drake@codethink.co.uk> wrote:

>
> On 28/04/17 11:18, Michael Drake wrote:
> >
> > We could change it not to save the hotlist on exit when
> > an external hotlist manager is used, since that would
> > be a simple change.
>
> Done.

You are a star 8-)

I'll get to tweaking BookMaker so it no longer blocks save if NetSurf
is running.


--
Nick Roberts tigger @ orpheusinternet.co.uk

Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which
can be adequately explained by stupidity.

Re: history and hotlist not saved; CSS site

On 28/04/17 11:18, Michael Drake wrote:
>
> We could change it not to save the hotlist on exit when
> an external hotlist manager is used, since that would
> be a simple change.

Done.

Re: history and hotlist not saved; CSS site

On 28/04/17 10:51, Michael Drake wrote:

> In any case, I can make it more robust by consulting the
> external hotlist option before removing from the hotlist.

Actually it already does that, so NetSurf shouldn't be saving
the hotlist when the hotlist is edited, when configured to
use an external hotlist manager, however, it will still
save the hotlist on exit.

We could change it not to save the hotlist on exit when
an external hotlist manager is used, since that would
be a simple change.

Adding support for querying the external hotlist about
whether it has a URL and removing URLs from external
requires more work, and would need a RISC OS developer.

If there are any developers interested in working on the
RISC OS front end, they would be most welcome. None of
NetSurf's core developers use RISC OS, so we have trouble
maintaining and supporting it.

Cheers,

Re: history and hotlist not saved; CSS site

On 27/04/17 18:03, Michael Drake wrote:
>
> On 26/04/17 18:30, Nick Roberts wrote:
>
>> Can you just confirm that NetSurf doesn't save the file if there is an
>> external hotlist manager?
>
> I don't know, off the top of my head. I'm unfamiliar with the
> external hotlist option. If I have time tomorrow I could have
> a look at the code.

As far as I can tell there are three differences in behavior when
the RISC OS front end's external hotlist option is enabled:

1. Opening the hotlist will Filer_Run the external application,
rather than opening the NetSurf hotlist manager window.

2. The hotlist_has_url test always returns false for external
hotlists. (Meaning the star in the URL bar will always be
an empty outline, rather than filled yellow, even when the
current page is in the external hotlist.)

3. When adding pages to the hotlist, NetSurf's core hotlist code
isn't informed. This means that the NetSurf won't save the
file when adding URLs.

So NetSurf won't save the hotlist file when adding pages, and
set to use an external hotlist manager.

It looks like the RISC OS front end code for removing pages
from the hotlist first checks whether the core hotlist has
the page, and if it does, it instructs the NetSurf core
hotlist to remove it, rather than the external application.

The remove from hotlist handling has no code to tell an
external hotlist to remove pages.

This means that if this code is called, and the the core
hotlist had the URL, it will remove it, which will cause
NetSurf to save the hotlist file.

I can't remember exactly how the RISC OS UI presents the
interface for removing pages from the hotlist. It might have
been select clicking on a filled URL bar star, or adjust
clicking on a URL bar star, or something else. If the former,
then because of point 2 above, it would not let the remove
page code get called in the first place, so the file wouldn't
get saved.

In any case, I can make it more robust by consulting the
external hotlist option before removing from the hotlist.

Cheers,

Re: history and hotlist not saved; CSS site

On 26/04/17 18:30, Nick Roberts wrote:

> Can you just confirm that NetSurf doesn't save the file if there is an
> external hotlist manager?

I don't know, off the top of my head. I'm unfamiliar with the
external hotlist option. If I have time tomorrow I could have
a look at the code.

Cheers,

Re: Bug tracker

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 15:15:36 +0100, Vincent Sanders wrote:
> Unfortunately this required updating the version in use from 1.2.19 to
> 1.3.10 as support for the previous series has been discontinued. This
> further required upgrading the hosting operating system, database, web
> server and PHP edition.

Cripes. Nice job Vince.

D.

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Re: Change of email

In message <5632bd93bdLists@Torrens.org.uk>
"Richard Torrens (lists)" <Lists@Torrens.org.uk> wrote:

> In article <c69bc52a56.thebears@thebears@onetel.com>,
> Geoffrey Baxendale <thebears@onetel.com> wrote:
> > In message <421ebf2956.thebears@thebears@onetel.com>
> > Geoffrey Baxendale <thebears@sarno.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I am having to change my email address and can't get anywhere using the
> > > netsurf site using the "users list" unsubscribe feature. It just says no
> > > address given. Same with FF or Netsurf.
> > >
> > > Any ideas?
> > >
> > > TTFN
> > OK, I have finally cracked it by using Chrome on my tablet. Still can't
> > log in via Netsurf.
>
> Looking at the headers one is:
> List-Unsubscribe: ...
> <mailto:netsurf-users-request@netsurf-browser.org?subject=unsubscribe>
>
> So an email can be sent to unsub. Presumably the ?subject=subscribe
> will subscribe. I'm changing my email so am trying it.
>
Thanks Richard, I never thought to look in the headers but someone else
on another list also mentioned it. I am all sorted now.

TTFN
--
Geoff.
Using Acorn StrongARM Kinetic RiscPC.
Oxymoron of the day: "Little Monster"

Re: history and hotlist not saved; CSS site

In message <496fe1b4-8a09-4243-e65a-50b1381b7ab4@codethink.co.uk>
Michael Drake <michael.drake@codethink.co.uk> wrote:

> On 23/11/16 09:58, Harriet Bazley wrote:
> > On 23 Nov 2016 as I do recall,
> > Jim Nagel wrote:
> >
> > > Does NetSurf not save its hotlist and history till the user quits
> > > the program?
> > >
> > No, it doesn't.
>
> As of CI build #4070, the hotlist file is saved shortly after URLs
> are added / removed.

Can you just confirm that Netsurf doesn't save the file if there is an
external hotlist manager? I've just had a play with build #4070 and
this seems to be the case, but confirmation would be nice.

If so, I can fix BookMaker to allow saves even if Netsurf is running.

--
Nick Roberts tigger @ orpheusinternet.co.uk

Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which
can be adequately explained by stupidity.

Re: history and hotlist not saved; CSS site

In article <496fe1b4-8a09-4243-e65a-50b1381b7ab4@codethink.co.uk>,
Michael Drake <michael.drake@codethink.co.uk> wrote:
> On 23/11/16 09:58, Harriet Bazley wrote:
> > On 23 Nov 2016 as I do recall,
> > Jim Nagel wrote:
> >
> >> Does NetSurf not save its hotlist and history till the user quits the
> >> program?
> >>
> > No, it doesn't.

> As of CI build #4070, the hotlist file is saved shortly after URLs are
> added / removed.

> Cheers,

Excellent! A long-awaited chamnge. Thanks for the contiunuing good work.

--
Richard Torrens.
http://www.Torrens.org for genealogy, natural history, wild food, walks, cats
and more!

Re: Change of email

In article <c69bc52a56.thebears@thebears@onetel.com>,
Geoffrey Baxendale <thebears@onetel.com> wrote:
> In message <421ebf2956.thebears@thebears@onetel.com>
> Geoffrey Baxendale <thebears@sarno.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

> > Hi,
> >
> > I am having to change my email address and can't get anywhere using the
> > netsurf site using the "users list" unsubscribe feature. It just says no
> > address given. Same with FF or Netsurf.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > TTFN
> OK, I have finally cracked it by using Chrome on my tablet. Still can't
> log in via Netsurf.

Looking at the headers one is:
List-Unsubscribe: ...
<mailto:netsurf-users-request@netsurf-browser.org?subject=unsubscribe>

So an email can be sent to unsub. Presumably the ?subject=subscribe
will subscribe. I'm changing my email so am trying it.

--
Richard Torrens.
http://www.Torrens.org for genealogy, natural history, wild food, walks, cats
and more!

Re: history and hotlist not saved; CSS site

On 23/11/16 09:58, Harriet Bazley wrote:
> On 23 Nov 2016 as I do recall,
> Jim Nagel wrote:
>
>> Does NetSurf not save its hotlist and history till the user quits the
>> program?
>>
> No, it doesn't.

As of CI build #4070, the hotlist file is saved shortly after URLs are
added / removed.

Cheers,

[gccsdk] Building GCCSDK with modern GCC + makeinfo

Hi,

Over the weekend I had a go at building GCCSDK on a fresh install of
Lubuntu 17.04, using the default GCC + makeinfo/texinfo packages (GCC
6.3.0 & makeinfo 6.3).

GCC 6.3 didn't like the version of PPL we're using (it complained about
some classes which contained a "[]" flexible array as the last member). So
I've fixed that by updating to the latest version of PPL (which allows us
to drop some now redundant patches, but also introduces a couple of new
patches because GCC and cloog had bogus PPL version checks). AIUI more
recent versions of GCC have dropped PPL in favour of a different library
("isl"), so I'll leave it to you to decide whether updating the PPL
version is worth it or not (it's possible it's affected code
generation/optimisation, since GCC built with new PPL seems to produce
different binaries compared to other builds of GCC with old PPL)

Meanwhile, makeinfo barfed at a couple of pieces of dodgy syntax in the
GCC docs. Checking against the latest GCC sources shows that they've
changed that part of the docs to use an alternative syntax, which looks
like it should be supported under all the makeinfo versions we support:

https://gcc.gnu.org/viewcvs/gcc/trunk/gcc/doc/gcc.texi?r1=203064&r2=203065&


After patching the above issues I was able to build functioning versions
of the cross-compiler and native compiler. Patches attached.

Cheers,

- Jeffrey

Bug tracker

The NetSurf bug tracker [1] is a Mantis [2] install hosted on a
NetSurf administered system. Recently several critical issues have
been found in Mantis that required an immediate upgrade.

Unfortunately this required updating the version in use from 1.2.19 to
1.3.10 as support for the previous series has been discontinued. This
further required upgrading the hosting operating system, database, web
server and PHP edition.

The upgrade appears to have been successful and no data loss has been
detected. If you use the bug tracker it would be helpful if you can
check your issues and ensure nothing has been lost.

The New Mantis version should also improve the look and feel of the
bug tracker without adversely affecting performance.

[1] http://bugs.debian.org/mantis/
[2] https://www.mantisbt.org/

--
Regards Vincent
http://www.kyllikki.org/

Re: Printing from Netsurf

On 4 Apr 2017 as I do recall,
Michael Drake wrote:

>
> On 03/04/17 22:52, Harriet Bazley wrote:
> > Can anyone remind me again of the reason why Netsurf can't print to
> > Postscript printers? (I've simply been working round it all the time by
> > using Drawprint, but I'm trying to explain to my mother why it doesn't
> > work...)
>
> Please see the Printing section here:
>
> http://www.netsurf-browser.org/documentation/roinfo.html#Printing
>
Ah, thanks - Unicode support (or lack thereof) in the Postscript 2 drivers.

--
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Time is nature's way of making sure that everything doesn't happen at once.

Re: Change of email

In message <421ebf2956.thebears@thebears@onetel.com>
Geoffrey Baxendale <thebears@sarno.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am having to change my email address and can't get anywhere using the
> netsurf site using the "users list" unsubscribe feature. It just says no
> address given. Same with FF or Netsurf.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> TTFN
OK, I have finally cracked it by using Chrome on my tablet. Still can't
log in via Netsurf.

TTFN
--
Geoff.
Using Acorn StrongARM Kinetic RiscPC.
Oxymoron of the day: "Tubular Bells"

Re: Horizontal rules in NetSurf 3.5 & 3.6

On 08/04/17 21:41, pjperry@freeuk.com wrote:

> <hr align="center" width="50%"><br />
>
> This displays as expected in NetSurf 3.0 and Firefox but in NetSurf 3.5
> and 3.6 it produces a full width rule.

Should be fixed in CI build #4060.

http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/

Cheers,

--

Michael Drake http://www.codethink.co.uk/

Re: Horizontal rules in Netsurf 3.5 & 3.6

In article
<de036cb645a7d1e65c45d56debf0b2c5.squirrel@ssl-webmail-vh.freeuk.com>,
<pjperry@freeuk.com> wrote:
> netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org

[Snip]

> <hr align="center" width="50%"><br />

> This displays as expected in Netsurf 3.0 and Firefox but in Netsurf 3.5
> and 3.6 it produces a full width rule.

> Is it me or Netsurf that has missed something?

"width" of a rule is not one of those things that NetSurf can do,
unfortunately.

If you use a style instead, it does work:
<hr align="center" style="width: 50%;">

--

Tim Hill

timil.com : tjrh.eu : butterwick.eu : blue-bike.uk : youngtheatre.co.uk

Change of email

Hi,

I am having to change my email address and can't get anywhere using the
netsurf site using the "users list" unsubscribe feature. It just says no
address given. Same with FF or Netsurf.

Any ideas?

TTFN
--
Geoff. Baxendale, Darwen, Lancashire.
Using Acorn StrongARM Kinetic RiscPC.
Pip Pip, Onk Onk....

Horizontal rules in Netsurf 3.5 & 3.6

netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org

A little problem with the <hr> tag in Netsurf 3.5 and 3.6.

I have a simple html doc. in which horizontal rules are used:

<hr align="center" width="50%"><br />

This displays as expected in Netsurf 3.0 and Firefox but in Netsurf 3.5
and 3.6 it produces a full width rule.

Is it me or Netsurf that has missed something?

Best regards, Philip.


--
pjperry@freeuk.com
http://www.pjperry.freeuk.com/

Re: Window position

On 8 Apr, Dave Symes wrote in message
<5629643029dave@triffid.co.uk>:

> In article <ee82372956.jim@abbeypress.net>,
> Jim Nagel <netsurf@abbeypress.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > After posting that, I thot: Adjust-doubleclick would be even nicer (all
> > with one hand), if such a thing is allowed in such a situation.
>
> Adjust double click opens a child/subdirectory and closes the
> parent/directory in one action.

However, given that NetSurf uses an Adjust click for something more than
changing the selected state of the object under the pointer, adding a
different action to Adjust double-click is likely to be problematic from a
technical point of view because RISC OS won't allow the two actions to be
differentiated.

RISC OS sends a single click, followed shortly after by a double-click --
exactly what's required for a selection model like the Filer's.

--
Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England

http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/

Re: Window position

In article <ee82372956.jim@abbeypress.net>,
Jim Nagel <netsurf@abbeypress.co.uk> wrote:
> Tim Hill wrote on 7 Apr:

> > In article <30d0062956.jim@abbeypress.net>,
> > Jim Nagel <netsurf@abbeypress.co.uk> wrote:
> >> Or maybe a new trick such as Shift-Adjust-click could open the new
> >> window *behind* the one I click in. (Perhaps this is comparable to
> >> the likes of Firefox, where you can configure whether opening a new
> >> tab puts you immediately into the new tab or lets you remain in the
> >> present one, in my case the list of search results.)

> > Shift/Adjust seems to be in use. Ctrl/Adjust seems unused.

> After posting that, I thot: Adjust-doubleclick would be even nicer
> (all with one hand), if such a thing is allowed in such a situation.

Adjust double click opens a child/subdirectory and closes the
parent/directory in one action.

D.

--

Re: Window position

Tim Hill wrote on 7 Apr:

> In article <30d0062956.jim@abbeypress.net>,
> Jim Nagel <netsurf@abbeypress.co.uk> wrote:
>> Or maybe a new trick such as Shift-Adjust-click could open the new
>> window *behind* the one I click in. (Perhaps this is comparable to
>> the likes of Firefox, where you can configure whether opening a new
>> tab puts you immediately into the new tab or lets you remain in the
>> present one, in my case the list of search results.)

> Shift/Adjust seems to be in use. Ctrl/Adjust seems unused.

After posting that, I thot: Adjust-doubleclick would be even nicer
(all with one hand), if such a thing is allowed in such a situation.


--
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|| See you at the show? www.wakefieldshow.org.uk April 22

Re: Window position

In article <30d0062956.jim@abbeypress.net>,
Jim Nagel <netsurf@abbeypress.co.uk> wrote:
> Or maybe a new trick such as Shift-Adjust-click could open the new
> window *behind* the one I click in. (Perhaps this is comparable to
> the likes of Firefox, where you can configure whether opening a new
> tab puts you immediately into the new tab or lets you remain in the
> present one, in my case the list of search results.)

Shift/Adjust seems to be in use. Ctrl/Adjust seems unused.

--

Tim Hill

timil.com : tjrh.eu : butterwick.eu : blue-bike.uk : youngtheatre.co.uk

Re: Window position

Richard Porter wrote on 6 Apr:
> I can't see the point of 'Stagger window position' being on ...

So often I wish that the "stagger" behaviour would behave more
helpfully, when I have a page of search results and want to follow
several of them.

Adjust-click the first result -- a new Netsurf page opens,
covering the results page. Bring it to the front.

Adjust-click the second result -- a new Netsurf page opens,
covering the results page. Bring it to the front.

Etc.

Perhaps if stagger were configurable, the new pages could open far
enough to the right so that enough of the list of results remains
visible for the next Adjust-click.

Or maybe a new trick such as Shift-Adjust-click could open the new
window *behind* the one I click in. (Perhaps this is comparable to
the likes of Firefox, where you can configure whether opening a new
tab puts you immediately into the new tab or lets you remain in the
present one, in my case the list of search results.)



--
Jim Nagel www.archivemag.co.uk
|| See you at the show? www.wakefieldshow.org.uk April 22

Re: Window position

On 6 Apr 2017 I wrote:

> It doesn't work like that. You can open a window in the default
> position, close it and open another window. This gets staggered up or
> down even if there's no window to stagger it from.

I think I've now sussed it. With Stagger off and Copy on it does what
I want. If a link is opened in a new window then the new window is
vertically offset from the parent window, otherwise a new window
that's opened from the icon bar or by double-clicking an html file
opens in the default position.

I can't see the point of 'Stagger window position' being on but it
doesn't matter.

--
Richard Porter http://www.minijem.plus.com/
t: @westernexplorer mailto:ricp@minijem.plus.com
I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.

Window position

After a bit of fiddling I got the default window position to where I
want it - full width, just below the menu bar at the top and just
above the icon bar at the bottom. I've ticked 'Stagger window
position'.

This is fine when you first run NetSurf but I would expect NetSurf to
use the default position whenever the first window is opened
regardless of what went before (i.e. no other windows are open).

It doesn't work like that. You can open a window in the default
position, close it and open another window. This gets staggered up or
down even if there's no window to stagger it from.

I feel a bug report coming on, although it's really only a design
oversight. In the mean time I might be better off with 'stagger
windows' disabled.

--
Richard Porter http://www.minijem.plus.com/
t: @westernexplorer mailto:ricp@minijem.plus.com
I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.

Re: KYP West

In article <ba176a2756.jim@abbeypress.net>,
Jim Nagel <netsurf@abbeypress.co.uk> wrote:
> nonstandard coding of the site

Just a reminder that you can check this in several places, including

http://validator.w3.org/

--

Tim Hill

timil.com : tjrh.eu : butterwick.eu : blue-bike.uk : youngtheatre.co.uk

Re: KYP West

In article <562774ffd8bbailey@argonet.co.uk>,
Brian <bbailey@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <ba176a2756.jim@abbeypress.net>, Jim Nagel
> <netsurf@abbeypress.co.uk> wrote:
> > Brian [Bailey, we discover] wrote on 26 Mar: (re
> > http://www.kypwest.org.uk )

> > > The site now seems to load but accessing individual geographic areas
> > > gets the following,

> > > Proxy Error The proxy server received an invalid response from an
> > > upstream server. The proxy server could not handle the request GET
> > > /kyp/southglos. Reason: Error reading from remote server

> > The Know Your Place site itself (http://kypwest.org.uk) seems to load
> > OK, but the indiv geographical areas you call pages from the Bristol
> > city council site, e.g. http://maps.bristol.gov.uk/kyp/?edition=glos

> > The page for the exhibition at Wells (near me) is also hosted on an
> > outside site (https://bishopspalace.org.uk), and Netsurf unforch has
> > pictures on top of text etc.

> So it does.

> > I know not whether the shortcoming is in Netsurf or in nonstandard
> > coding of the site, of course.

> I guess that the latter might probably be the case. Nonetheless it would
> be interesting to see what NatSurf can do with it in the fullness of time.

> > But thanks for the pointer, Brian. Will mention Know Your Place in the
> > local conservation newsletter I do.

> Well, KYP is of course of some limited interest, but at least three men
> and a dog locally definitely think it's a great idea. As a community
> project I feel that it has merit. It certainly is of historical interest
> and has come up with a number of surprises for me.

Also useful in genealogy research. In one of the old maps I found a street
(now disappeared) where some ancestors lived.

--
Chris

Re: KYP West

In article <ba176a2756.jim@abbeypress.net>, Jim Nagel
<netsurf@abbeypress.co.uk> wrote:
> Brian [Bailey, we discover] wrote on 26 Mar: (re
> http://www.kypwest.org.uk )

> > The site now seems to load but accessing individual geographic areas
> > gets the following,

> > Proxy Error The proxy server received an invalid response from an
> > upstream server. The proxy server could not handle the request GET
> > /kyp/southglos. Reason: Error reading from remote server

> The Know Your Place site itself (http://kypwest.org.uk) seems to load
> OK, but the indiv geographical areas you call pages from the Bristol
> city council site, e.g. http://maps.bristol.gov.uk/kyp/?edition=glos

> The page for the exhibition at Wells (near me) is also hosted on an
> outside site (https://bishopspalace.org.uk), and Netsurf unforch has
> pictures on top of text etc.

So it does.

> I know not whether the shortcoming is in Netsurf or in nonstandard
> coding of the site, of course.

I guess that the latter might probably be the case. Nonetheless it would
be interesting to see what NatSurf can do with it in the fullness of time.

> But thanks for the pointer, Brian. Will mention Know Your Place in the
> local conservation newsletter I do.

Well, KYP is of course of some limited interest, but at least three men
and a dog locally definitely think it's a great idea. As a community
project I feel that it has merit. It certainly is of historical interest
and has come up with a number of surprises for me.

Re: Printing from Netsurf

On 03/04/17 22:52, Harriet Bazley wrote:
> Can anyone remind me again of the reason why Netsurf can't print to
> Postscript printers? (I've simply been working round it all the time by
> using Drawprint, but I'm trying to explain to my mother why it doesn't
> work...)

Please see the Printing section here:

http://www.netsurf-browser.org/documentation/roinfo.html#Printing

Cheers,


--

Michael Drake http://www.codethink.co.uk/

Re: Printing from Netsurf

In article <590e2e2756.harriet@blueyonder.co.uk>,
Harriet Bazley <lists@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:

> Can anyone remind me again of the reason why Netsurf can't print to
> Postscript printers? (I've simply been working round it all the time by
> using Drawprint, but I'm trying to explain to my mother why it doesn't
> work...)

Can't Netsurf print to postscript printers? I just printed a webpage over 3
sheets, with background colours, pictures, text and all. Ricoh printer, PS3
driver.

Best wishes,
Paul Sprangers

Re: KYP West

Brian [Bailey, we discover] wrote on 26 Mar:
(re http://www.kypwest.org.uk )

> The site now seems to load but accessing individual geographic areas gets
> the following,

> Proxy Error
> The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server.
> The proxy server could not handle the request GET /kyp/southglos.
> Reason: Error reading from remote server

The Know Your Place site itself (http://kypwest.org.uk) seems to load
OK, but the indiv geographical areas you call pages from the Bristol
city council site, e.g. http://maps.bristol.gov.uk/kyp/?edition=glos

The page for the exhibition at Wells (near me) is also hosted on an
outside site (https://bishopspalace.org.uk), and Netsurf unforch has
pictures on top of text etc. I know not whether the shortcoming is in
Netsurf or in nonstandard coding of the site, of course.

But thanks for the pointer, Brian. Will mention Know Your Place in
the local conservation newsletter I do.





** If you see this line in your reply, you need to SNIP **
--
Jim Nagel www.archivemag.co.uk
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Printing from Netsurf

Can anyone remind me again of the reason why Netsurf can't print to
Postscript printers? (I've simply been working round it all the time by
using Drawprint, but I'm trying to explain to my mother why it doesn't
work...)

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Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie ==

Flying is the art of throwing yourself at the ground... and missing.