[netsurf-users] news.novaabbs.org display issues

news.novabbs.org display issues with differing results when CSS
enabled/disabled.

Examples
https://news.novabbs.org/common/grouplist.php?groupsearch=comp.sys.acorn&Submit=Search

If you browse to above address, will show the Acorn group.
Browsing with CSS enabled, does not show the table borders and text
appears small with CSS disabled text is larger and easier to read, but
still no borders

Registration page does does display correctly with CSS enabled, but
workable when disabled

When posting the page does not display correctly with CSS i.e. no input
boxes for the fields, but these do appear with CSS disable. Also with
posting the Message box does is too narrow.

news.novabbs.org is an online client for reading and posting to
newsgroups. Whilst is useable within NetSurf, would be much easier of the
input boxes appeared correctly, without having to switch off CSS, or just
guessing where the boxes are with CSS enabled.



--
Paul Stewart Sent from A9home running RISC OS 4.42

[netsurf-dev] FOSDEM 2025 - Retrocomputing Devroom - Call for participation

Hi,

We'll have a retro devroom this year again:

https://lists.fosdem.org/pipermail/fosdem/2024q4/003591.html

François.

[netsurf-dev] Re: Toolchain build for AmigaOS4

On 08/11/2024 14:35, Chris Young wrote:
>
>
>
> On 08/11/2024 13:41, vincent sanders wrote:
>>
>> On 08/11/2024 10:48, Chris Young wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 07/11/2024 10:56, Chris Young wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 06/11/2024 13:09, vincent sanders wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 18/10/2024 15:09, Chris Young wrote:
>>>>>> Hi all
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've had some issues this year with various things not working,
>>>>>> and tracked it down to the OS4 betas and (indirectly) the update
>>>>>> of the SDK.  There were two problems;
>>>>>> 1. DNS resolution was not working.  I fixed this at the start of
>>>>>> the year but after fixing (2) it broke again in a different way.
>>>>>> I've temporarily disabled the threaded resolver until I can find
>>>>>> a more permanent solution.
>>>>>> 2. SSL/TLS sites were not opening.  I'm not sure why but it may
>>>>>> be the same problem as OS3 was having with OpenSSL.  As AmiSSL is
>>>>>> kept up-to-date now, unlike when I started porting NetSurf, I've
>>>>>> switched the OS4 build over to using AmiSSL.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please can somebody check and merge my chris/amissl-os4 branch
>>>>>> into toolchains, and rebuild the ppc-amigaos toolchain?
>>>>>> The equivalent chris/amissl-os4 branch can then be merged into
>>>>>> NetSurf and the CI builds should be working again on OS4 beta.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> hi chris, apologies for the delay. I applied a variant on your
>>>>> changes to the toolchain (selecting the ssl provider suppresses
>>>>> openssl so some changes you had were not required)
>>>>>
>>>>> I also updated the c-ares version which may help with the DNS
>>>>> issues (maybe)
>>>>>
>>>>> You should be ok to merge any netsurf changes you want now
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Fab, thanks.  I'll try with the new c-ares - it looked like the
>>>> issue was that it didn't have the code for obtaining DNS servers in
>>>> it (which I added), but it still didn't work. Maybe I did something
>>>> wrong, I'll try again.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well, this is a bit weird.  After all the updates I'm now getting
>>> "unsupported protocol", even from the Curl executable. It shows http
>>> and https in the list but neither are working :(
>>>
>>>
>> I updated the SDK with up to date versions of most libraries
>> (including libcurl) and re-built the CI toolchains. This was actually
>> because I was hoping to do a release this month amd we were behind on
>> security updates
>>
>> Maybe this will help? unsure why building libcurl with a different
>> ssl library would cause the protocol failures you see though.
>>
>
> I was wondering if the updated libcurl was the issue.  It isn't the
> SSL library causing it as even non-SSL sites are returning the same
> error!
>
> I'll investigate further.
>
Turns out that there are some defines that shouldn't be there when
building against AmiSSL (or bsdsocket perhaps).  I've fixed it, and also
re-tested the threaded resolver and that works again too!

If you could build the toolchain again that would be fab.

I've also checked under OS3 but that wasn't affected.

Thanks
Chris

[netsurf-dev] Re: Toolchain build for AmigaOS4

On 08/11/2024 13:41, vincent sanders wrote:
>
> On 08/11/2024 10:48, Chris Young wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 07/11/2024 10:56, Chris Young wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 06/11/2024 13:09, vincent sanders wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 18/10/2024 15:09, Chris Young wrote:
>>>>> Hi all
>>>>>
>>>>> I've had some issues this year with various things not working,
>>>>> and tracked it down to the OS4 betas and (indirectly) the update
>>>>> of the SDK.  There were two problems;
>>>>> 1. DNS resolution was not working.  I fixed this at the start of
>>>>> the year but after fixing (2) it broke again in a different way.
>>>>> I've temporarily disabled the threaded resolver until I can find a
>>>>> more permanent solution.
>>>>> 2. SSL/TLS sites were not opening.  I'm not sure why but it may be
>>>>> the same problem as OS3 was having with OpenSSL.  As AmiSSL is
>>>>> kept up-to-date now, unlike when I started porting NetSurf, I've
>>>>> switched the OS4 build over to using AmiSSL.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please can somebody check and merge my chris/amissl-os4 branch
>>>>> into toolchains, and rebuild the ppc-amigaos toolchain?
>>>>> The equivalent chris/amissl-os4 branch can then be merged into
>>>>> NetSurf and the CI builds should be working again on OS4 beta.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> Chris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> hi chris, apologies for the delay. I applied a variant on your
>>>> changes to the toolchain (selecting the ssl provider suppresses
>>>> openssl so some changes you had were not required)
>>>>
>>>> I also updated the c-ares version which may help with the DNS
>>>> issues (maybe)
>>>>
>>>> You should be ok to merge any netsurf changes you want now
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Fab, thanks.  I'll try with the new c-ares - it looked like the
>>> issue was that it didn't have the code for obtaining DNS servers in
>>> it (which I added), but it still didn't work. Maybe I did something
>>> wrong, I'll try again.
>>>
>>
>> Well, this is a bit weird.  After all the updates I'm now getting
>> "unsupported protocol", even from the Curl executable. It shows http
>> and https in the list but neither are working :(
>>
>>
> I updated the SDK with up to date versions of most libraries
> (including libcurl) and re-built the CI toolchains. This was actually
> because I was hoping to do a release this month amd we were behind on
> security updates
>
> Maybe this will help? unsure why building libcurl with a different ssl
> library would cause the protocol failures you see though.
>

I was wondering if the updated libcurl was the issue.  It isn't the SSL
library causing it as even non-SSL sites are returning the same error!

I'll investigate further.

[netsurf-dev] Re: Toolchain build for AmigaOS4

On 08/11/2024 10:48, Chris Young wrote:
>
>
>
> On 07/11/2024 10:56, Chris Young wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 06/11/2024 13:09, vincent sanders wrote:
>>>
>>> On 18/10/2024 15:09, Chris Young wrote:
>>>> Hi all
>>>>
>>>> I've had some issues this year with various things not working, and
>>>> tracked it down to the OS4 betas and (indirectly) the update of the
>>>> SDK.  There were two problems;
>>>> 1. DNS resolution was not working.  I fixed this at the start of
>>>> the year but after fixing (2) it broke again in a different way.
>>>> I've temporarily disabled the threaded resolver until I can find a
>>>> more permanent solution.
>>>> 2. SSL/TLS sites were not opening.  I'm not sure why but it may be
>>>> the same problem as OS3 was having with OpenSSL.  As AmiSSL is kept
>>>> up-to-date now, unlike when I started porting NetSurf, I've
>>>> switched the OS4 build over to using AmiSSL.
>>>>
>>>> Please can somebody check and merge my chris/amissl-os4 branch into
>>>> toolchains, and rebuild the ppc-amigaos toolchain?
>>>> The equivalent chris/amissl-os4 branch can then be merged into
>>>> NetSurf and the CI builds should be working again on OS4 beta.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>> hi chris, apologies for the delay. I applied a variant on your
>>> changes to the toolchain (selecting the ssl provider suppresses
>>> openssl so some changes you had were not required)
>>>
>>> I also updated the c-ares version which may help with the DNS issues
>>> (maybe)
>>>
>>> You should be ok to merge any netsurf changes you want now
>>>
>>>
>> Fab, thanks.  I'll try with the new c-ares - it looked like the issue
>> was that it didn't have the code for obtaining DNS servers in it
>> (which I added), but it still didn't work.  Maybe I did something
>> wrong, I'll try again.
>>
>
> Well, this is a bit weird.  After all the updates I'm now getting
> "unsupported protocol", even from the Curl executable.  It shows http
> and https in the list but neither are working :(
>
>
I updated the SDK with up to date versions of most libraries (including
libcurl) and re-built the CI toolchains. This was actually because I was
hoping to do a release this month amd we were behind on security updates

Maybe this will help? unsure why building libcurl with a different ssl
library would cause the protocol failures you see though.

[netsurf-dev] Re: Toolchain build for AmigaOS4

On 07/11/2024 10:56, Chris Young wrote:
>
>
> On 06/11/2024 13:09, vincent sanders wrote:
>>
>> On 18/10/2024 15:09, Chris Young wrote:
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> I've had some issues this year with various things not working, and
>>> tracked it down to the OS4 betas and (indirectly) the update of the
>>> SDK.  There were two problems;
>>> 1. DNS resolution was not working.  I fixed this at the start of the
>>> year but after fixing (2) it broke again in a different way. I've
>>> temporarily disabled the threaded resolver until I can find a more
>>> permanent solution.
>>> 2. SSL/TLS sites were not opening.  I'm not sure why but it may be
>>> the same problem as OS3 was having with OpenSSL.  As AmiSSL is kept
>>> up-to-date now, unlike when I started porting NetSurf, I've switched
>>> the OS4 build over to using AmiSSL.
>>>
>>> Please can somebody check and merge my chris/amissl-os4 branch into
>>> toolchains, and rebuild the ppc-amigaos toolchain?
>>> The equivalent chris/amissl-os4 branch can then be merged into
>>> NetSurf and the CI builds should be working again on OS4 beta.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>> hi chris, apologies for the delay. I applied a variant on your
>> changes to the toolchain (selecting the ssl provider suppresses
>> openssl so some changes you had were not required)
>>
>> I also updated the c-ares version which may help with the DNS issues
>> (maybe)
>>
>> You should be ok to merge any netsurf changes you want now
>>
>>
> Fab, thanks.  I'll try with the new c-ares - it looked like the issue
> was that it didn't have the code for obtaining DNS servers in it
> (which I added), but it still didn't work.  Maybe I did something
> wrong, I'll try again.
>

Well, this is a bit weird.  After all the updates I'm now getting
"unsupported protocol", even from the Curl executable.  It shows http
and https in the list but neither are working :(

[netsurf-dev] Re: Toolchain build for AmigaOS4

On 06/11/2024 13:09, vincent sanders wrote:
>
> On 18/10/2024 15:09, Chris Young wrote:
>> Hi all
>>
>> I've had some issues this year with various things not working, and
>> tracked it down to the OS4 betas and (indirectly) the update of the
>> SDK.  There were two problems;
>> 1. DNS resolution was not working.  I fixed this at the start of the
>> year but after fixing (2) it broke again in a different way. I've
>> temporarily disabled the threaded resolver until I can find a more
>> permanent solution.
>> 2. SSL/TLS sites were not opening.  I'm not sure why but it may be
>> the same problem as OS3 was having with OpenSSL.  As AmiSSL is kept
>> up-to-date now, unlike when I started porting NetSurf, I've switched
>> the OS4 build over to using AmiSSL.
>>
>> Please can somebody check and merge my chris/amissl-os4 branch into
>> toolchains, and rebuild the ppc-amigaos toolchain?
>> The equivalent chris/amissl-os4 branch can then be merged into
>> NetSurf and the CI builds should be working again on OS4 beta.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Chris
>>
>>
> hi chris, apologies for the delay. I applied a variant on your changes
> to the toolchain (selecting the ssl provider suppresses openssl so
> some changes you had were not required)
>
> I also updated the c-ares version which may help with the DNS issues
> (maybe)
>
> You should be ok to merge any netsurf changes you want now
>
>
Fab, thanks.  I'll try with the new c-ares - it looked like the issue
was that it didn't have the code for obtaining DNS servers in it (which
I added), but it still didn't work.  Maybe I did something wrong, I'll
try again.

Chris